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<blockquote data-quote="Solvarn" data-source="post: 5285751" data-attributes="member: 59666">Not racistJust to clear the air because I'm *sure* this will come up:&nbsp;The term &quot;calling a spade a spade&quot; derives from an ancient Greek expression: &quot;to call a fig a fig, a trough a trough&quot;.&nbsp; This is first recorded in Aristophanes' play The Clouds (423 B.C.), was used by Menander and Plutarch, and is still current in modern Greek. <a href="http://www.yaelf.com/aueFAQ/miftocllspdspd.shtml" target="_blank">&quot;to call a spade a spade&quot;</a>&nbsp;Anyway, it is 4.5E. The only difference is that more of an effort is being made to update previous material to be compatible with the new design philosophy. This new design philosophy would have continued through into future materials regardless of how they were packaged.&nbsp;In my opinion, if you are an Insider subscriber, it is a win-win for you. You still get your stuff, but the books are cheaper so if you decide you want one at the table it is more in your price range.&nbsp;The only people really losing out on this are the people that really love the quality of the hardcover books. They are nice books, but they are pricey. I think this move is pretty good overall.&nbsp;There are a lot of complaints about books being outdated, but that happened anyway with errata. I sold almost all of my older hardcover books because errata made so much of it inaccurate. How many AV items changed? How much stuff in the PHB?&nbsp;Here is what makes it 4.5E in my opinion: if you are using the books as written without errata, and you purchase a new book, there may be some significant power creep in the new material and some of it may not make sense if it revolves around errata'd rules. Even if you do much more rigorous playtesting, things sneak through. You can't patch books, you can only errata them.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Solvarn, post: 5285751, member: 59666"] [b]Not racist[/b] Just to clear the air because I'm *sure* this will come up: The term "calling a spade a spade" derives from an ancient Greek expression: "to call a fig a fig, a trough a trough". This is first recorded in Aristophanes' play The Clouds (423 B.C.), was used by Menander and Plutarch, and is still current in modern Greek. [url=http://www.yaelf.com/aueFAQ/miftocllspdspd.shtml]"to call a spade a spade"[/url] Anyway, it is 4.5E. The only difference is that more of an effort is being made to update previous material to be compatible with the new design philosophy. This new design philosophy would have continued through into future materials regardless of how they were packaged. In my opinion, if you are an Insider subscriber, it is a win-win for you. You still get your stuff, but the books are cheaper so if you decide you want one at the table it is more in your price range. The only people really losing out on this are the people that really love the quality of the hardcover books. They are nice books, but they are pricey. I think this move is pretty good overall. There are a lot of complaints about books being outdated, but that happened anyway with errata. I sold almost all of my older hardcover books because errata made so much of it inaccurate. How many AV items changed? How much stuff in the PHB? Here is what makes it 4.5E in my opinion: if you are using the books as written without errata, and you purchase a new book, there may be some significant power creep in the new material and some of it may not make sense if it revolves around errata'd rules. Even if you do much more rigorous playtesting, things sneak through. You can't patch books, you can only errata them. [/QUOTE]

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