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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ripster0" data-source="post: 5285850" data-attributes="member: 68548">If the state of the game post-Essentials is different enough from first printing of the PH then to be called 4.5, then we are already in 4.5. The Update PDF is full of enough changes already. With regards to the OP:3.5 deserves distinction because it essentially meant tossing any old 3rd edition books into a box. Everything was reprinted. Essentials does not do that. Existing books will still be what new players will need to use to create the builds that we are already using. Power creep is already here, balancing has been done on an ongoing basis. So we are going to get some boosts to old races and some feats and powers that make the old stuff still viable, hardly seems like making the old stuff incompatible.</blockquote>