Reply to thread

Message

<blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 5286960" data-attributes="member: 158">I'm starting to change my mind to agree with Mercurius, but not in quite the same way. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Is it &quot;more&quot; than 4e? Yes, definitely, and I have to say I disagree with the Bill Slaviczek and Mike Mearls' statements on the WotC web site that &quot;it's not invalidating&quot; the 1st 4E PHB. I reached that conclusion after the Gencon seminars, when they started to explain the breadth of rules and powers that were being slightly tweaked. It's not just &quot;new builds, and wizards get a few power erratas.&quot; It's apparently a pretty wide-spread set of tweaks that will probably DOUBLE the amount of errata released up through April of this year or so.(I'm counting the July Errata as part of &quot;essentials&quot; errata for one very specific reason -- magic missile tells me that essentials was definitely on the radar when that set of errata was released, and the MM3 changes, etc. all feed directly into essentials products.)Quite frankly, there will be so many rules corrections by the point all of the essentials-influenced changes make it into the updates that I will be completely unable to both use the Character builder away from the table, and only use my books at the table, because I will not be able to trust my recollection of what's changed and what hasn't. (I don't have to remember every change - as long as I can remember if something has changed.)Now, am I bummed about this? Not really. I AM bummed that the Character builder will not have an option to roll back the errata updates (even if it's not the default, that would have really helped). However, for the most part, we rarely access the books at table these days anyway - as DM, the CB takes care of 95% of that for me. Also, I'm not bummed because I do like almost every change I've seen to date.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Henry, post: 5286960, member: 158"] I'm starting to change my mind to agree with Mercurius, but not in quite the same way. :) Is it "more" than 4e? Yes, definitely, and I have to say I disagree with the Bill Slaviczek and Mike Mearls' statements on the WotC web site that "it's not invalidating" the 1st 4E PHB. I reached that conclusion after the Gencon seminars, when they started to explain the breadth of rules and powers that were being slightly tweaked. It's not just "new builds, and wizards get a few power erratas." It's apparently a pretty wide-spread set of tweaks that will probably DOUBLE the amount of errata released up through April of this year or so. (I'm counting the July Errata as part of "essentials" errata for one very specific reason -- magic missile tells me that essentials was definitely on the radar when that set of errata was released, and the MM3 changes, etc. all feed directly into essentials products.) Quite frankly, there will be so many rules corrections by the point all of the essentials-influenced changes make it into the updates that I will be completely unable to both use the Character builder away from the table, and only use my books at the table, because I will not be able to trust my recollection of what's changed and what hasn't. (I don't have to remember every change - as long as I can remember if something has changed.) Now, am I bummed about this? Not really. I AM bummed that the Character builder will not have an option to roll back the errata updates (even if it's not the default, that would have really helped). However, for the most part, we rarely access the books at table these days anyway - as DM, the CB takes care of 95% of that for me. Also, I'm not bummed because I do like almost every change I've seen to date. [/QUOTE]

Verification