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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mercurius" data-source="post: 5287395" data-attributes="member: 59082">Fair enough, Ungeheurlich. I guess the idea of it being 4.5ish doesn't  offend me because of the very fact that I think updates are a good thing  and I was never annoyed or pissed when WotC came out with a new  edition. Plus I like the idea of "essentializing" 4E into a simpler  core, something I've been advocating for years now and was dabbling with  designing not so long ago (my hope is that Essentials is to 4E  something like Castles & Crusades was to 3.5).An interesting thing is that I haven't seen anyone say they don't like  Essentials or are pissed it is coming out. I'm new to the conversation,  so maybe I missed it.</blockquote>