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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 5407688" data-attributes="member: 4348">And that reveals all I need to really know.  Believe it or not, most LORDS (that would have had the money and tools for this type of armor) did NOT do what you see in some movies and some do in their Fantasy Medieval warrior play...they actually did NOT LEAD any charge.  They felt being at the front was a good way to get themselves killed.Some did (be at the front of the line)...but most did not.  Even back then they still had a sense of survival...and the front of the line...was normally not a good position for survival.  If they faced gunfire it would have most likely been a hail (or bombardment) of bullets at their area, and they would be more vulnerable then their horse in such a situation.  However,  of course horses could be killed just as easily, but the intent would be to kill the soldiers, knights, and those trying to kill you.  Perhaps you should be so kind to tell them that they should kill all the horses instead of the men, that would lead to some different results throughout history (Stonewall Jackson would thank you perhaps, being assured that all people could then target the horses with such accuracy, and leave the riders to simply fall of dead horses instead of being hit by bullets instead) involving cavalry and those on horse.Horses WERE killed, but the entire point is that the person on the horse would not be killed and could be taken off the field alive.  Your example (which isn't very realistic) of a Knight at the front of a charge (who would be one of the first one's hit) would die regardless in all probability.  If his horse was killed and he fell to the ground to be trampled by several dozen steeds, he would still be killed even in any other Lighter armor anyways.  Hence your point is rather moot on that standing.  I'm not going to waste mine...and if you wish, your time on any type of discussion with that type of thinking...next you'll be trying to discuss how great two weapon fighters were on horseback compared to those with lances or spears (aka...nonsense, which you may believe(edit, sp) I'm full of nonsense...and after your statement rather makes me feel like I should probably not waste the time talking on anything in relation to your statements).</blockquote>

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