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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5459628" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>You must get attacked with Daze and Stun an awful lot.</p><p></p><p>But the point is, sure. This feat protected your PC and you as a player remembered it (sort of, does your DM tell you the exact totals of his monster to hit rolls? that seems a bit unusual).</p><p></p><p>But, the feat and nothing else prevented Daze or Stun 9 times so far??? With a bonus of +2 to +4? How many levels?</p><p></p><p>With maybe 10% of Will attacks doing Daze or Stun (40% in MM total, but the vast majority ~90% are once per encounter not at will due to the potency of Daze and Stun), 1 attack in 9 being a Will attack (MM only, other sources will vary), 8 NPC attacks against a PC per encounter (on average, a bit low for Defenders, high for everyone else), 8 combat encounters per level (it's almost never 10 due to higher level encounters, skill challenges, quest XP, etc.), 15% average bonus by Superior Will at Paragon (10% at Heroic, 20% at Epic).</p><p></p><p>The small bonus to Will Defense from Superior Will should prevent a PC from getting Dazed and Stunned approximately 9 times in about 90 levels or once every tier (usually 6 months to a year of gaming sessions, not exactly exciting how often it helps against these rare conditions). It'll help out against any Will attack more often (maybe even as often as once per level), but not so frequently against Daze and Stun specifically unless your DM throws a ton of those at the PCs.</p><p></p><p>Course, Superior Will hasn't been around long enough for most players to play 90 levels, so your experience seems to be an extreme bit of an anomaly.</p><p></p><p>I think your anecdotal evidence here is just that. Anecdotal and very very atypical.</p><p></p><p>I doubt the vast majority of players who have taken Will Defense boost feats have had as good of luck with them as you have.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 5459628, member: 2011"] You must get attacked with Daze and Stun an awful lot. But the point is, sure. This feat protected your PC and you as a player remembered it (sort of, does your DM tell you the exact totals of his monster to hit rolls? that seems a bit unusual). But, the feat and nothing else prevented Daze or Stun 9 times so far??? With a bonus of +2 to +4? How many levels? With maybe 10% of Will attacks doing Daze or Stun (40% in MM total, but the vast majority ~90% are once per encounter not at will due to the potency of Daze and Stun), 1 attack in 9 being a Will attack (MM only, other sources will vary), 8 NPC attacks against a PC per encounter (on average, a bit low for Defenders, high for everyone else), 8 combat encounters per level (it's almost never 10 due to higher level encounters, skill challenges, quest XP, etc.), 15% average bonus by Superior Will at Paragon (10% at Heroic, 20% at Epic). The small bonus to Will Defense from Superior Will should prevent a PC from getting Dazed and Stunned approximately 9 times in about 90 levels or once every tier (usually 6 months to a year of gaming sessions, not exactly exciting how often it helps against these rare conditions). It'll help out against any Will attack more often (maybe even as often as once per level), but not so frequently against Daze and Stun specifically unless your DM throws a ton of those at the PCs. Course, Superior Will hasn't been around long enough for most players to play 90 levels, so your experience seems to be an extreme bit of an anomaly. I think your anecdotal evidence here is just that. Anecdotal and very very atypical. I doubt the vast majority of players who have taken Will Defense boost feats have had as good of luck with them as you have. [/QUOTE]
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