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<blockquote data-quote="CovertOps" data-source="post: 5358731" data-attributes="member: 65152"><p>I suppose I should have added that I never "got" Vancian casting. It never made any sense to me as far as "realism" goes. </p><p></p><p>All heroes have several things in common:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Training</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Raw talent</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Skill</li> </ul><p>What exactly makes training or skill in ANY given field different from some other field? If you go to school and exercise your brain you (hopefully) get smarter. If you go to the gym and exercise your muscles you (hopefully) get stronger. In both cases the more you do the easier it gets. I'd like to hear a good argument why training in the Arcane is <strong>different</strong> from Martial training. In other words....why do daily powers make sense for one and not the other? To me the more troublesome thing is the idea that I know these 2 (3, 4, whatever) really awesome cool maneuvers and I can do each of them exactly once (per day). Each of them takes some form of exertion (be it physical or mental), but I can't do one of them 2 times and the other not at all.</p><p></p><p>Thankfully this "dis-ease" (two words not one) only appears in players who have played in "Vancian" type systems. Players who have never played in a "Vancian" type system don't have preconceptions and thus it doesn't bother them.</p><p></p><p>So...anyone care to bring on the "training" isn't "training" position?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CovertOps, post: 5358731, member: 65152"] I suppose I should have added that I never "got" Vancian casting. It never made any sense to me as far as "realism" goes. All heroes have several things in common: [list] [*]Training [*]Raw talent [*]Skill [/list] What exactly makes training or skill in ANY given field different from some other field? If you go to school and exercise your brain you (hopefully) get smarter. If you go to the gym and exercise your muscles you (hopefully) get stronger. In both cases the more you do the easier it gets. I'd like to hear a good argument why training in the Arcane is [b]different[/b] from Martial training. In other words....why do daily powers make sense for one and not the other? To me the more troublesome thing is the idea that I know these 2 (3, 4, whatever) really awesome cool maneuvers and I can do each of them exactly once (per day). Each of them takes some form of exertion (be it physical or mental), but I can't do one of them 2 times and the other not at all. Thankfully this "dis-ease" (two words not one) only appears in players who have played in "Vancian" type systems. Players who have never played in a "Vancian" type system don't have preconceptions and thus it doesn't bother them. So...anyone care to bring on the "training" isn't "training" position? [/QUOTE]
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