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Message: <blockquote data-quote="WalterKovacs" data-source="post: 5588727" data-attributes="member: 63763">There is the eternal debate over wording of 'attack with a weapon' vs 'weapon attack' where a warlock firing an eldritch blast through his pact blade is "attacking with a weapon". I know that RBAs aren't ranger powers, but Clever Shot is a ranger power, that allows you to make a RBA as part of the power, I was only wondering how that concept of "attack power that causes an attack to happen but doesn't involve an attack in and of itself" [Although, even with the 'attack through a weapon' assumption above, only rapid shot would be useful with magic missle, since it never hits, and therefore would be useless with clever shot].  In terms of interesting combinations: A hybrid ranger/executioner with throw and stab. A single at-will power would allow for both striker features to trigger at once (you'd have to build str/dex based, but an executioner doesn't really need charisma ... you'd rather get a good fort if you are going to garotte people anyway.) The MBA with the Executioner thing is probably a bigger question than stuff involving clever shot (I'm pretty sure your interpretation is right, the power itself allows for an RBA, so the initial 'attack power' never hits or misses and thus doesn't trigger the quarry.) However various 'counts as an MBA' powers, whether conditional or always on, could create a stacking effect with the executioner.</blockquote>