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<blockquote data-quote="Neverfate" data-source="post: 5590091" data-attributes="member: 93685"><p>Spirit of Vice: You choose a vice and gain the</p><p>benefit of the Spirit of Vice class feature.</p><p></p><p>The Spirit of Vice class feature does not give you at-wills. The Spirit of Vice feature is a damage mechanic. Normally, as a regular blackguard you would pick a Spirit of Vice class feature and get associated at-wills via the Vice At-Will class feature, which is listed on a normal blackguard as and which is not listed on the hybrids. As it stands now, you can select any at-will from your class (paladin) and from your other class.</p><p></p><p>You can disagree if you want, but the rules are pretty clear. Also, it's a playtest, so if this irks you, you can email WotC. I plan to.</p><p></p><p>Honestly it just needs to say "Vice At-Will (hybrid)- You gain one Vice At-will as your chose At-Will".</p><p></p><p>Also, I haven't looked closely at the Executioner but I believe they get an Assassin at-will AND 2 guild at-wills (which isn't so bad since the guild atwills are situational).</p><p></p><p>Edit: In response to @<u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=78116" target="_blank">Aegeri</a></u> and [MENTION=19675]Dannyalcatraz[/MENTION]. I think I phrased my initial comment on older build support poorly. Though you guys alluded more to what I had meant. </p><p></p><p>I think a lot of people peg Essentials as killing old school support, but in reality, if Essentials were just regular splat books it would still be support for PHB1. This is no longer Old vs Essentials, but PHB1 vs Everything Else. WotC still wouldn't be supporting classes, but people wouldn't be erroneously complaining that it's Essentials fault. I'm not defending Essentials, just saying WotC not caring about PHB2 and 3 is what is at fault (I mean, where was the cross druid/sentinel feats?)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neverfate, post: 5590091, member: 93685"] Spirit of Vice: You choose a vice and gain the benefit of the Spirit of Vice class feature. The Spirit of Vice class feature does not give you at-wills. The Spirit of Vice feature is a damage mechanic. Normally, as a regular blackguard you would pick a Spirit of Vice class feature and get associated at-wills via the Vice At-Will class feature, which is listed on a normal blackguard as and which is not listed on the hybrids. As it stands now, you can select any at-will from your class (paladin) and from your other class. You can disagree if you want, but the rules are pretty clear. Also, it's a playtest, so if this irks you, you can email WotC. I plan to. Honestly it just needs to say "Vice At-Will (hybrid)- You gain one Vice At-will as your chose At-Will". Also, I haven't looked closely at the Executioner but I believe they get an Assassin at-will AND 2 guild at-wills (which isn't so bad since the guild atwills are situational). Edit: In response to @[U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=78116"]Aegeri[/URL][/U] and [MENTION=19675]Dannyalcatraz[/MENTION]. I think I phrased my initial comment on older build support poorly. Though you guys alluded more to what I had meant. I think a lot of people peg Essentials as killing old school support, but in reality, if Essentials were just regular splat books it would still be support for PHB1. This is no longer Old vs Essentials, but PHB1 vs Everything Else. WotC still wouldn't be supporting classes, but people wouldn't be erroneously complaining that it's Essentials fault. I'm not defending Essentials, just saying WotC not caring about PHB2 and 3 is what is at fault (I mean, where was the cross druid/sentinel feats?) [/QUOTE]
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