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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ryujin" data-source="post: 5592166" data-attributes="member: 27897">Yes, I ultimately took that character to 20th level. I found Pact Weapons insufficient to my character concept, so I took Arcane Implement Proficiency and used a Weapon of Summer.At lower levels I managed to do reasonably well, despite having a CHA that was 2 points lower than INT, by using things like Eyebite and Witchfire. So what, if I wasn't doing big damage to the BBEG. I was knocking his attacks down by 6 at level 1, so that everyone else could concentrate fire on him for a turn. Once a day I was doing reasonable damage to said BBEG, slamming him into the Defender and melee Striker, then slipping him back in their direction until he made a save. In one case that was for the whole 6 rounds of combat, by a fluke of horrible DM save rolling.My biggest success, in playing a Deceptive Warlock, was in deceiving the DM into thinking that I wasn't contributing much to the combat. There were quite a few combats in which I took not a single point of damage, either by dint of being ignored or teleporting away from (blinded) danger.And for at-will suckage, I think that the Bard's Staggering Note is right up there. No damage *roll* so no bonuses, and low fixed damage. Yes, it's a leader, but it's still painful.</blockquote>