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<blockquote data-quote="MrMyth" data-source="post: 5264376" data-attributes="member: 61155">It isn't an issue of modifying basic attacks - that's missing the point entirely. The fact they are built around basic attacks makes them better than most, in fact, while dazed. They all have access to their encounter powers, for example, and potentially whatever features they are getting in place of dailies. In the knight's case, he has access to the last round's at-will power, and probably comes out ahead of the majority of other melee classes while dazed, and certainly far ahead of anyone needing to use minors (either to heal, or get striker damage on a new target) or move actions (who can't make good use of a charge.) &nbsp;In the thief's case, the issue is that to get his At-Will benefits, it requires an entire seperate action from the attack itself. Thus, daze shuts it down completely. Given it also cuts off flanking, and makes it real tough to move and hide, the dazed thief is not in the best place. Not a hopeless situation, certainly, and there are plenty of other conditions that can cause that sort of problem, but the daze is definitely felt by the thief more than most.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MrMyth, post: 5264376, member: 61155"] It isn't an issue of modifying basic attacks - that's missing the point entirely. The fact they are built around basic attacks makes them better than most, in fact, while dazed. They all have access to their encounter powers, for example, and potentially whatever features they are getting in place of dailies. In the knight's case, he has access to the last round's at-will power, and probably comes out ahead of the majority of other melee classes while dazed, and certainly far ahead of anyone needing to use minors (either to heal, or get striker damage on a new target) or move actions (who can't make good use of a charge.) In the thief's case, the issue is that to get his At-Will benefits, it requires an entire seperate action from the attack itself. Thus, daze shuts it down completely. Given it also cuts off flanking, and makes it real tough to move and hide, the dazed thief is not in the best place. Not a hopeless situation, certainly, and there are plenty of other conditions that can cause that sort of problem, but the daze is definitely felt by the thief more than most. [/QUOTE]

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