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<blockquote data-quote="Prestidigitalis" data-source="post: 5423625" data-attributes="member: 74496"><p>It's not a bad idea overall.</p><p></p><p>- The loss in damage from using Dex for melee isn't that large, and will be offset somewhat by the occasions when you need to attack at range. You can also spend your ability scores more flexibly, to get a high Con or Wis.</p><p></p><p>- The loss in damage from using a Rapier is larger, and hard to offset. </p><p></p><p>- You lose the benefit of Slayer Weapon Specialization, and have no way to get it back or swap it for something else. You also won't get the benefit of Greater Weapon Specialization if you take the Mythic Slayer paragon path -- but you probably won't.</p><p></p><p>- If you go full Swashbuckler and eschew Heavy Armor, you really lose out at levels 19+. Armored Mobility at 19 gives you Resist All (10 + Dex mod) against damage from OAs while wearing Heavy Armor. Unfettered Slayer at 24 eliminates speed penalties from wearing Heavy Armor. Those are nice features.</p><p></p><p>Honestly, I think the best path to Swashbuckler using Slayer is to ask the DM to let you tweak the build. Come up with a reason why Slayer is a better starting point that Thief or vanilla Rogue.</p><p></p><p>As an aside, I half think that the Slayer is intended to serve a function that has never been explicitly mentioned: as a charge-oriented alternative for those who don't want Barbarian flavor, or who want the flavor but dislike the mechanics.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Prestidigitalis, post: 5423625, member: 74496"] It's not a bad idea overall. - The loss in damage from using Dex for melee isn't that large, and will be offset somewhat by the occasions when you need to attack at range. You can also spend your ability scores more flexibly, to get a high Con or Wis. - The loss in damage from using a Rapier is larger, and hard to offset. - You lose the benefit of Slayer Weapon Specialization, and have no way to get it back or swap it for something else. You also won't get the benefit of Greater Weapon Specialization if you take the Mythic Slayer paragon path -- but you probably won't. - If you go full Swashbuckler and eschew Heavy Armor, you really lose out at levels 19+. Armored Mobility at 19 gives you Resist All (10 + Dex mod) against damage from OAs while wearing Heavy Armor. Unfettered Slayer at 24 eliminates speed penalties from wearing Heavy Armor. Those are nice features. Honestly, I think the best path to Swashbuckler using Slayer is to ask the DM to let you tweak the build. Come up with a reason why Slayer is a better starting point that Thief or vanilla Rogue. As an aside, I half think that the Slayer is intended to serve a function that has never been explicitly mentioned: as a charge-oriented alternative for those who don't want Barbarian flavor, or who want the flavor but dislike the mechanics. [/QUOTE]
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