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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 5471466" data-attributes="member: 71571">This is true, if and only if, you are choosing a power for that level.  The text, despite what people claim, is pretty clear about that."Whenever you choose a new class power, you may select it from a list in this book, or you may..." yadda yadda this stuff we know.At level 16, the thief has a class feature named Slip from the Grasp.  It says this:'Benefit: You gain the slip from the grasp power.'Contrast with the class feature at level 10, named Utility Power which states:'Benefit: You gain one of the powers of your choice.'You are not choosing a new class power, so the rule that allows you to use other sources does not trigger and does not apply.You can no more take another level 16 thief power than a sun warpriest can take a storm warpriest encounter power.  It's not a list of powers, it's not a choice. If they'd intended for you to have a choice... you'd have a choice.  The catch is, those powers do have class, level, and types because other rogues can select them by the rule.Is it fair?  Who cares, it's an essentials class, if you wanted choice you'd have gone PHB.Let's be clear about this, the warlock and the shaman, as noted above, are operating under the exact same rule.  If your class says you get a specific power, you get that power and that's it.  If your class says you get a choice of powers, you get a choice of powers, obviously.Regardless, even if you have a general rule that says you can select powers, by having a specific class feature that states 'You get this exact power' guess what happens?  Here's a hint.  You do what the specific feature says, NOT what the general rule states.  You ALWAYS do what the specific feature says.  You always have.  You always will.  Changing the size of the books and making them paperback hasn't changed that rule one bit.</blockquote>

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