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Essentials -- What happened to Rituals?
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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5413150" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>Raise dead is a level 8 Warpriest class feature. Some other classic spells that are rituals in standard 4e are also now class features of various casting classes. </p><p></p><p>As for rituals appearing in RC, they are only 'sort of' there. They are mentioned, but not even the basic rules for ritual casting are presented. RC has a secondary purpose though, to be a single source for all standard rules, regardless of where they were implemented or if they exist in Essentials. There are plenty of keywords that are explained in RC for example that are not used at all in Essentials. I think they just left out the ritual casting rules because A) they haven't changed at all since PHB1 was release, and B) since no rituals were going to be presented anyway and no Essentials class uses rituals anyone who wants to use them has to have PHB1 anyhow. I suspect they felt that since they weren't needed and would be a strict reprint they saved themselves a couple pages by leaving them out.</p><p></p><p>Note of course that anyone with a PHB1 can take Ritual Caster with his Essentials character and use rituals if he so desires. They are compatible and still exist, they are just not using that subsystem in essentials. There are a lot of other things you can't do with Essentials and that no reference exists to at all in RC. That includes things like familiars and skill powers. They don't appear in the RC either, but then again they were all things that showed up in later books. I don't think the RC and Essentials in general should be considered a 'complete' 4e system. It is a subset and here and there they do cover some things that aren't in Essentials in the RC, but not consistently. It is really more of a compendium of Essentials rules than of all 4e rules.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 5413150, member: 82106"] Raise dead is a level 8 Warpriest class feature. Some other classic spells that are rituals in standard 4e are also now class features of various casting classes. As for rituals appearing in RC, they are only 'sort of' there. They are mentioned, but not even the basic rules for ritual casting are presented. RC has a secondary purpose though, to be a single source for all standard rules, regardless of where they were implemented or if they exist in Essentials. There are plenty of keywords that are explained in RC for example that are not used at all in Essentials. I think they just left out the ritual casting rules because A) they haven't changed at all since PHB1 was release, and B) since no rituals were going to be presented anyway and no Essentials class uses rituals anyone who wants to use them has to have PHB1 anyhow. I suspect they felt that since they weren't needed and would be a strict reprint they saved themselves a couple pages by leaving them out. Note of course that anyone with a PHB1 can take Ritual Caster with his Essentials character and use rituals if he so desires. They are compatible and still exist, they are just not using that subsystem in essentials. There are a lot of other things you can't do with Essentials and that no reference exists to at all in RC. That includes things like familiars and skill powers. They don't appear in the RC either, but then again they were all things that showed up in later books. I don't think the RC and Essentials in general should be considered a 'complete' 4e system. It is a subset and here and there they do cover some things that aren't in Essentials in the RC, but not consistently. It is really more of a compendium of Essentials rules than of all 4e rules. [/QUOTE]
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