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Message: <blockquote data-quote="catastrophic" data-source="post: 5414074" data-attributes="member: 81381">I think part of the problem is that even more than items, rituals come with a lot of niggly book-keeping, and it between the two it can be very easy to just forget about rituals and save up for an item instead.  4e is very good at cutting down on this kind of thing, and for many people rituals and even item cost buck that trend in a not-good way. I think a good solution would be to simpplify costings for both, and then make rituals just another sort of item- once you have it, you can use it once a day or at the cost of a surge or w/e, and you don't have to worrry about endless cost issues. OTOH, it would mean you don't have quite as many of them, even if they don't use the same resource as your items. Another idea would be to give each ritual a conbat mode, and a campaign mode. Balance the combat mode against item usage, so for instance, where a wizard might boost a power with their magic staff, they might instead trip or push an opponent with a floating disk. These powers would probably not be quite as good as an item power, but that balances the campaign usage. Of course, a reply to this would be the idea of moving items and powers into a similar 'campaign space', but I think that's a good direction to move in either way. Who says you can't use your portable hole to carry grain to a starving village, or keep warm using your flamebalde?  To a degree this could be improvised, but a simpler item/ritual system could give good GM support for such calls. Even a basic power rating and some keywords would allow a GM to map items and rituals into skill challenges, for instance, and better 'eyeball' such effects in more freeform terms. Can a flame blade blaze brightly enough to burn through a wooden door? Well, a level 17 flame blade probably can. . .</blockquote>

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