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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5418535" data-attributes="member: 2011">I think that using gold for crafting items is not necessarily better than using gold for rituals.Gold is a renewable resource. PCs acquire it in nearly half of encounters on average.The crafted +1 sword is going to become obsolete in about 5 levels anyway (especially with the new concept of common, uncommon, and rare items). Just like the ritual will, for the most part, become obsolete by the next game day.At level 10 when the PCs are acquiring 2000 GP in a treasure parcel, the 50 GP spent at level 2 for a ritual will become peanuts, just like the 360 GP spent at level 4 for the now obsolete +1 sword will become peanuts.To me, rituals are like any other consumable. At around level 5, you start occasionally using cheap low level consumables and rituals to augment the effectiveness of the group. You don't do so with expensive closer to party level consumables and rituals except in unusual circumstances.I do think that "party related expenses" such as some rituals can sometimes be viewed as "taking my money and spending it on something that I don't necessarily need", but that appears to be a minority viewpoint. Our group tends to split the monetary treasure into x+1 where x is the number of party members. So with 4 PCs currently, 1/5th goes into a general party fund for rituals, bribes, miscellaneous expenses, crafting healing or resistance potions (regardless of who they are distributed to), etc. There is almost never a discussion on how to spend the party fund since any use of it is basically what it is there for. The party fund is even used to make loans to PCs. I could see where worrying about spending gold on a ritual is more of an issue for a group that doesn't have a party fund.</blockquote>

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