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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 5269087" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>4e was already pretty well set to apeal to new players. I've actually seen the phenomenon, if you can get a kid who, at most, has maybe played a few on-line games to try 4e, they get it right away. If you get a jaded old gamer to try it, they're like "Oh, this isn't really D&D." </p><p></p><p>Since 3.0, the PH as been a point of entry. You couldn't really play D&D with a 1e or 2e PH, you could play with just a 3.0 PH (but really not much past 1st level), with the 4e PH, you can play the game and you can build any character up to and including 30th level with no trouble. The DM needs a MM or a module, but that's about it. All the vital rules are in the PH. In 4e, you also had an introductory set. The Essentials introductory set is retro. Being retro makes it more likely to apeal to lapsed fans - who, afterall, are in their 40s, a prime time to waste money on something you used to love when you were a kid. Mid-life crisis nerds are squarely in the marketing crosshairs of the Red Box. Thier kids and any other 'new new' players might get hit if they're standing too close.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 5269087, member: 996"] 4e was already pretty well set to apeal to new players. I've actually seen the phenomenon, if you can get a kid who, at most, has maybe played a few on-line games to try 4e, they get it right away. If you get a jaded old gamer to try it, they're like "Oh, this isn't really D&D." Since 3.0, the PH as been a point of entry. You couldn't really play D&D with a 1e or 2e PH, you could play with just a 3.0 PH (but really not much past 1st level), with the 4e PH, you can play the game and you can build any character up to and including 30th level with no trouble. The DM needs a MM or a module, but that's about it. All the vital rules are in the PH. In 4e, you also had an introductory set. The Essentials introductory set is retro. Being retro makes it more likely to apeal to lapsed fans - who, afterall, are in their 40s, a prime time to waste money on something you used to love when you were a kid. Mid-life crisis nerds are squarely in the marketing crosshairs of the Red Box. Thier kids and any other 'new new' players might get hit if they're standing too close. [/QUOTE]
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