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<blockquote data-quote="Scribble" data-source="post: 5280753" data-attributes="member: 23977">You could look at it that way, or you could look at it along the lines of:1. To make the game easier for people to enter, we give them options for &quot;level of complexity&quot; in class building.2. The slayer (and knight) fill the &quot;simple&quot; role.I think they chose the slayer and knight for this , yeah partly out of tradition, but I think there are some other reasons as well...If you follow the podcasts and such where Mike Mealrs talks about the design philosophy, one of the key elements they wanted was &quot;story first&quot; kind of.They wanted it to be easy for a new player who knows nothing about the game to simply say something like: &quot;Oh- I like attacking stuff.&quot; or &quot;Oh I like defending my friends from attacks&quot; and be able to directly map that into the game quickly and easily.I think the fighter classes have the easiest time with this.Sure they could have done it with other classes to, but I don't see it as a big deal. (Certainly not to the extent you seem to see it...)I think you might be conflating this a bit larger then it is... They've already indicated the old books aren't going out of print for one thing.For another, gamers are kind of notorious for collecting stuff related to gaming. Shrug, so it's in another book? The game is designed to work with the rest of the game, so the more complex fighter builds aren't going away. I wouldn't say that. At most I'd say conflating &quot;slayer and knight&quot; with simple build.As above the old class builds aren't going away, so it's just opening up the idea:Slayers are a simple build. Guardian fighters are more complex.Really I think the idea that they are now conflating martial with simple only works if you accept they are doing away with the other already existent parts of the game. I do not accept that idea. I think nothing could be further from the truth.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Scribble, post: 5280753, member: 23977"] You could look at it that way, or you could look at it along the lines of: 1. To make the game easier for people to enter, we give them options for "level of complexity" in class building. 2. The slayer (and knight) fill the "simple" role. I think they chose the slayer and knight for this , yeah partly out of tradition, but I think there are some other reasons as well... If you follow the podcasts and such where Mike Mealrs talks about the design philosophy, one of the key elements they wanted was "story first" kind of. They wanted it to be easy for a new player who knows nothing about the game to simply say something like: "Oh- I like attacking stuff." or "Oh I like defending my friends from attacks" and be able to directly map that into the game quickly and easily. I think the fighter classes have the easiest time with this. Sure they could have done it with other classes to, but I don't see it as a big deal. (Certainly not to the extent you seem to see it...) I think you might be conflating this a bit larger then it is... They've already indicated the old books aren't going out of print for one thing. For another, gamers are kind of notorious for collecting stuff related to gaming. Shrug, so it's in another book? The game is designed to work with the rest of the game, so the more complex fighter builds aren't going away. I wouldn't say that. At most I'd say conflating "slayer and knight" with simple build. As above the old class builds aren't going away, so it's just opening up the idea: Slayers are a simple build. Guardian fighters are more complex. Really I think the idea that they are now conflating martial with simple only works if you accept they are doing away with the other already existent parts of the game. I do not accept that idea. I think nothing could be further from the truth. [/QUOTE]

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