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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 8515360" data-attributes="member: 177">If you want to know...[spoiler=&quot;Dane Whitman...&quot;]In the film, they specifically note Thena playing around with Excalibur on the Eternal's ship, so Dane doesn't have that.&nbsp; In the comics, Dane Whitman is the descendant of the Black Knight, and wields the Ebony Blade.&nbsp; The Ebony Blade is powerful, but cursed, which is why Dane has such a struggle over picking it up in the post-credits scene[/spoiler]Eros/Starfox is stupid.&nbsp; Not just in the movie, but in the comics, he's an overconfident jackass with emotion control powers that are kind of non-consensual.&nbsp; Really problematic stuff.However, there's a note in his introduction that is... extremely interesting.Starfox arrives with Pip, and introduces himself as the brother of Thanos (which is consistent with the comics).&nbsp; He also addresses the people on the ship as &quot;my fellow Eternals&quot; or words to that effect.And there, we have to stop for a second.&nbsp; Thanos claims to be a Titan.&nbsp; Unless there's adoption involved, that means Eros is also a Titan.&nbsp; That implies that the Titans are Eternals, but not under Arishem's rule.&nbsp; Interesting that Arishem would not stop one of his own creations from eliminating half the population he needs to birth new Celestials, isn't it?Mind you, we know that Arishem can and will lie.&nbsp; And I find his claim that Celestials are responsible for star formation to be... extremely unsatisfying.&nbsp; I would rather take it that Arishem is lying like a rug.[spoiler=&quot;Speculation...&quot;]The comics origins are that the Celestials created both Deviants and Eternals - that part is fine.&nbsp; But in the comics, neither group is under the control of the Celestials.&nbsp; I suspect that Marvel is aiming for this as well - Arishem has some Eternals on various planets, but they have this tendency of breaking away when confronted with the truth.&nbsp; The memory erasure is more likely about maintaining them as servants than about &quot;relieving the burden of memory&quot;.[/spoiler]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 8515360, member: 177"] If you want to know... [spoiler="Dane Whitman..."] In the film, they specifically note Thena playing around with Excalibur on the Eternal's ship, so Dane doesn't have that. In the comics, Dane Whitman is the descendant of the Black Knight, and wields the Ebony Blade. The Ebony Blade is powerful, but cursed, which is why Dane has such a struggle over picking it up in the post-credits scene[/spoiler] Eros/Starfox is stupid. Not just in the movie, but in the comics, he's an overconfident jackass with emotion control powers that are kind of non-consensual. Really problematic stuff. However, there's a note in his introduction that is... extremely interesting. Starfox arrives with Pip, and introduces himself as the brother of Thanos (which is consistent with the comics). He also addresses the people on the ship as "my fellow Eternals" or words to that effect. And there, we have to stop for a second. Thanos claims to be a Titan. Unless there's adoption involved, that means Eros is also a Titan. That implies that the Titans [I]are Eternals[/I], but not under Arishem's rule. Interesting that Arishem would not stop one of his own creations from eliminating half the population he needs to birth new Celestials, isn't it? Mind you, we know that Arishem can and will lie. And I find his claim that Celestials are responsible for star formation to be... extremely unsatisfying. I would rather take it that Arishem is lying like a rug. [spoiler="Speculation..."]The comics origins are that the Celestials created both Deviants and Eternals - that part is fine. But in the comics, neither group is under the control of the Celestials. I suspect that Marvel is aiming for this as well - Arishem has some Eternals on various planets, but they have this tendency of breaking away when confronted with the truth. The memory erasure is more likely about maintaining them as servants than about "relieving the burden of memory".[/spoiler] [/QUOTE]

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