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Message: <blockquote data-quote="akbearfoot" data-source="post: 4554609" data-attributes="member: 33560">I think as a DM I would rule0 a tactic like this out....If the NPCs use it on the PCs then nothing stops the dead PC from bringing in a ninjaX of his own and using the tactic against the BBEGs over and over again.     Wizard scries the bad guy over and over to find out when he sleeps...The text for ethereal says creatures appear gray indistinct and ghostly...To me that is enough to say they effectively have concealment, for the purposes of a CDG only....If you attack them normally you can get a lucky critical naturally, but their bodies are shimmery and you cant see details  so if you want to CDG them it will take you TWO consecutive full round actions.That makes it impossible for ninjas to CDG from ethereal, but still keep all the normal useage of their ghost strike ability.And once the vampire escapes in gaseous form, the PCs will know they can follow him and bypass the magically warded doors that way.*Edit*The Ethereal jaunt spell says ethereal creatures move at half speed and can only see/hear 60ft.  Might make it take a lot longer to explore a 200ft area.  How many rounds can he remain ethereal?  I dont know the ninja class though, if they get monk-like movement then its not gonna matter.</blockquote>