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<blockquote data-quote="Sword of Spirit" data-source="post: 8097643" data-attributes="member: 6677017">Looks like your cosmology is different (mine is basically 2e (including quasi and para-elemental planes) but with the later additions like Shadowfell and Feywild), but your basic goal of starting campaign planar journey with travel through the Deep Ethereal, then through the Astral, then finally directly plane shifting is the same.Here's the house rules I made to make it work.First, for some really odd reason the description of the Ethereal Plane in the DMG doesn't give any way to shift between the Border Ethereal and Deep Ethereal. They are completely unconnected as far as the rules go. I simply add back in the 1e/2e rule that you spend an action to go from one to the other or back. I rule that if you got into the Border Ethereal by means of the etherealness spell and then will yourself into the Deep Ethereal, when the spell end you remain in the Deep Ethereal if you are there. In addition, I allow you to cast etherealness within the Border Ethereal to shift into the plane it borders (and the duration is instant, so it doesn't pull you back). That would fix the issue as far as ethereal travel goes, if the spell wasn't so high level that you can't even get a spell slot high enough to use it for party transport.So with those house rules in mind, here are two spells I've created:[ATTACH=full]126739[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]126740[/ATTACH]I think this should do a pretty good job of setting up the sort of travel options I'm looking for.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sword of Spirit, post: 8097643, member: 6677017"] Looks like your cosmology is different (mine is basically 2e (including quasi and para-elemental planes) but with the later additions like Shadowfell and Feywild), but your basic goal of starting campaign planar journey with travel through the Deep Ethereal, then through the Astral, then finally directly plane shifting is the same. Here's the house rules I made to make it work. First, for some really odd reason the description of the Ethereal Plane in the DMG doesn't give any way to shift between the Border Ethereal and Deep Ethereal. They are completely unconnected as far as the rules go. I simply add back in the 1e/2e rule that you spend an action to go from one to the other or back. I rule that if you got into the Border Ethereal by means of the [I]etherealness[/I] spell and then will yourself into the Deep Ethereal, when the spell end you remain in the Deep Ethereal if you are there. In addition, I allow you to cast [I]etherealness[/I] within the Border Ethereal to shift into the plane it borders (and the duration is instant, so it doesn't pull you back). That would fix the issue as far as ethereal travel goes, if the spell wasn't so high level that you can't even get a spell slot high enough to use it for party transport. So with those house rules in mind, here are two spells I've created: [ATTACH type="full" alt="etherconduit.PNG"]126739[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full" alt="astralaccess.PNG"]126740[/ATTACH] I think this should do a pretty good job of setting up the sort of travel options I'm looking for. [/QUOTE]

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