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<blockquote data-quote="Grogg of the North" data-source="post: 6041449" data-attributes="member: 6682960"><p>I wouldn't punish your player for being clever. He could just be doing what my group did in Shackled City. We were convinced from Chapter 1 that Vhalantru was going to turn on us for ... some reason. And by the end of Chapter 2 we were urging everyone to move out of Cauldron because we figured the volcano was due for an eruption.</p><p></p><p>If they're 13th level, then they should be getting ready to visit Lady Thifirane and Lord Vhalantru. If I recall they'll discover that its not just an illusion that conceals Vhalantru but a whole suit he crams himself into that's damn near an artifact. </p><p></p><p>If you change it to the Lord Mayor being the beholder, how are you going to run the dungeon in Vhalantru's manor? Have it be the mayor's manor? How do you explain that it was Vhalantru that was raising taxes, bringing in half orcs mercenaries, and generally shaking down the city for as much gold as possible. Have the PCs had much interaction with the Lord Mayor? When I played SC the DM played up that Lord Vhalantru was at first just a trusted advisor. Later in the game the Lord Mayor started acting fearful for his life and was getting ready to send to Sasserine for help. But then Vhalantru ate him. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p>I'd keep Vhalantru as the beholder. Let your player have his cookie for figuring it out and then beat him with the cookie jar as Vhalantru merges with the Demodand essence. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Grogg of the North, post: 6041449, member: 6682960"] I wouldn't punish your player for being clever. He could just be doing what my group did in Shackled City. We were convinced from Chapter 1 that Vhalantru was going to turn on us for ... some reason. And by the end of Chapter 2 we were urging everyone to move out of Cauldron because we figured the volcano was due for an eruption. If they're 13th level, then they should be getting ready to visit Lady Thifirane and Lord Vhalantru. If I recall they'll discover that its not just an illusion that conceals Vhalantru but a whole suit he crams himself into that's damn near an artifact. If you change it to the Lord Mayor being the beholder, how are you going to run the dungeon in Vhalantru's manor? Have it be the mayor's manor? How do you explain that it was Vhalantru that was raising taxes, bringing in half orcs mercenaries, and generally shaking down the city for as much gold as possible. Have the PCs had much interaction with the Lord Mayor? When I played SC the DM played up that Lord Vhalantru was at first just a trusted advisor. Later in the game the Lord Mayor started acting fearful for his life and was getting ready to send to Sasserine for help. But then Vhalantru ate him. ;) I'd keep Vhalantru as the beholder. Let your player have his cookie for figuring it out and then beat him with the cookie jar as Vhalantru merges with the Demodand essence. ;) [/QUOTE]
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