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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jfdlsjfd" data-source="post: 8360611" data-attributes="member: 42856">Except that no, once you establish XYZ as people, there is no good reason to go after him and kill him. Except of self-defence situation -- which would be uncommon since they are supposedly sentient and so would rather surrender rather than fight to the last man -- and euthanasia (a debate which D&D world should be free of since there is no lingering injuries, HP are recovered overnight and healing magic is plentiful), you'd be hard pressed to find a situation in which it is OK to behave like characters usually do.(vaalingarde)Having motivations for acting evil is great and I don't think anyone here said the contrary. However, if a vampire has actual motivation for doing evil, let's say he's like Strahd von Zahrovich and killed all female dusk elves in order to make elves feel what he felt when his love was denied, that's criminal, but not a reason to kill him. On the other hand, if on top of that, you establish in the setting that vampires are impossible to rehabilitate, always evil, so that they are not only doing evil but are evil, you could conceivably start arguing that the alternative (eternal jail without any possibility of sentence reduction, which is similar to torture) is worse than killing him outright. Note that I am not saying that being evil is sufficent to justify killing, nor I am defending the strawman that it's OK to kill innocent things because they are evil, but I am saying that being absolutely evil is a prerequisite to even consider killing it as an ethical solution to the problem of someone merely doing criminal acts.Having this kind of debate is very fun at the table and create memorable roleplay moments when one of the PCs actually choose to slit the throat of the the BBEG instead of Spare the Dying him... but some evening, you could want to play without entering this debates six to eight times per long rest.</blockquote>

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