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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 9708045" data-attributes="member: 4348">I think most of those "license" agreements have been considered unenforceable in the past.  The only tests against them have normally gone somewhat against the companies (the biggest one I think was a side track which led to a massive microsoft lawsuit which became an anti-monopoly case against them in the 90s).  Quoting those "License" agreements as saying you only have a license doesn't work all that great.  It's why the movement has gotten steam recently.  If you aren't actually buying a product, how can one actually steal it.  (I can name several ways, but that's just like...my opinion and hence most of those who say this would not agree with these ideas).It's either a product you buy, or an item you simply cannot actually own or buy or even obtain...only view.  And it you only have rights from a license to view and interact with it, then, just like any other experience if it's in the open where you can view it...they can't claim you stole it.(For example, you can steal a movie ticket, but if you stumble across a movie showing out in the public and decide to watch it, they cannot accuse you of stealing it as you didn't steal anything from anyone.  You watched something that was open on the outside and no one seemed to be stopping you.  It's not your fault, it's whoever was broadcastng the movie on TV, in a Park, or where ever you say it.In that light, you can sell a license, you may even steal a license, but you can't steal a thing which isn't property (as I said, I can think of several ways to, but most of those using this argument would not agree with me).  If it's not property that you can buy, then there is nothing you can steal.You can steal a car, but you can't steal an experience of riding in a car someone else drove.  You wouldn't steal a car, but you might ride in car if someone offered you a ride, even if it wasn't your car (especially if it wasn't your car, that's why you accepted the ride in the first place).</blockquote>

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