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<blockquote data-quote="Cergorach" data-source="post: 276119" data-attributes="member: 725"><p><strong>Re: Holland</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>Erm.. Don't know to what kind of shop you go to but RPG material is about $ x 1.1€, with taxes, exchange rate, and shipping, you'll end up paying more from an US online retailer than going to your local store. I think that you mean that US online retailers give a massive discount (about 30%max) and most stores give a discount of 10%max. There are some dutch online retailers that give a discount (i even know of one that gives 20% off on all RPG material), but nearly as many as the american market has.</p><p></p><p>I think your wrong, rpg material translated to dutch was never meant for the established roleplayers, it was targeted at new potential players (remember the old red D&D box, or "Het Oog Des Meesters"?). It was tried a couple of times, but it didn't last long before the line would be discontinued. Even the dutch translation of a german game did better than the dutch translation of D&D. Why is that do you hink, well... Simple actually, for the average roleplayer, english is a simpler language than german. Thus why buy a game that is already six+ months old in your own uncool language if you already have it in perfectly good english...</p><p></p><p>Translations wouldn't be worthwile for publishers unless they would spend a large amount of money to push it into mainstream Rpgs do have the potential to become mainstream here in holland, the dutch translation of das swartze auge was sold in Intertoys (is about the same thing when D&D gets sold in Toys are Us, where i believe it is sold as well these days). I do believe that many english D20 products could sell a lot better if the distributors would carry them and in turn the retailers. Ps-games one of the largest (if not THE largest) rpg game distributor in holland, is improving in that regard, they are carrying more and more different publishers, a good development i would say...</p><p></p><p>ps. I'm sorry if i misinterpereted abything, i've just come home froma twelfe hour working day after a five hour night ;-)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cergorach, post: 276119, member: 725"] [b]Re: Holland[/b] Erm.. Don't know to what kind of shop you go to but RPG material is about $ x 1.1€, with taxes, exchange rate, and shipping, you'll end up paying more from an US online retailer than going to your local store. I think that you mean that US online retailers give a massive discount (about 30%max) and most stores give a discount of 10%max. There are some dutch online retailers that give a discount (i even know of one that gives 20% off on all RPG material), but nearly as many as the american market has. I think your wrong, rpg material translated to dutch was never meant for the established roleplayers, it was targeted at new potential players (remember the old red D&D box, or "Het Oog Des Meesters"?). It was tried a couple of times, but it didn't last long before the line would be discontinued. Even the dutch translation of a german game did better than the dutch translation of D&D. Why is that do you hink, well... Simple actually, for the average roleplayer, english is a simpler language than german. Thus why buy a game that is already six+ months old in your own uncool language if you already have it in perfectly good english... Translations wouldn't be worthwile for publishers unless they would spend a large amount of money to push it into mainstream Rpgs do have the potential to become mainstream here in holland, the dutch translation of das swartze auge was sold in Intertoys (is about the same thing when D&D gets sold in Toys are Us, where i believe it is sold as well these days). I do believe that many english D20 products could sell a lot better if the distributors would carry them and in turn the retailers. Ps-games one of the largest (if not THE largest) rpg game distributor in holland, is improving in that regard, they are carrying more and more different publishers, a good development i would say... ps. I'm sorry if i misinterpereted abything, i've just come home froma twelfe hour working day after a five hour night ;-) [/QUOTE]
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