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<blockquote data-quote="kerbarian" data-source="post: 3218042" data-attributes="member: 40393">If a creature in the area can't ever beat the grapple check, then it's pretty screwed.&nbsp; However, there are a couple non-obvious things about the spell that make it somewhat less nasty.First, per the FAQ, the tentacles never try to re-grapple anyone.&nbsp; If you beat the grapple check initially or if you break free, the tentacles leave you alone unless you leave and re-enter the area.Second, the tentacles may not deal any damage when they initially grapple a target.&nbsp; I'm actually not sure about this one -- if anyone (Hyp?) has firm reasoning either way, please chime in.&nbsp; Normally, when one creature grapples another, it deals damage immediately as part of the grapple.&nbsp; However, this is a spell rather than an actual grappling creature, so it doesn't necessarily follow the normal grappling rules.&nbsp; If you go just by what the spell text says, damage is only dealt &quot;Once the tentacles grapple an opponent, ... each round on your turn&quot;.&nbsp; That would mean that if a creature fails its initial grapple check against the spell, it's grappled but takes no damage.&nbsp; If it fails to escape, then the tentacles start making grapple checks to damage it on the caster's next action.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="kerbarian, post: 3218042, member: 40393"] If a creature in the area can't ever beat the grapple check, then it's pretty screwed. However, there are a couple non-obvious things about the spell that make it somewhat less nasty. First, per the FAQ, the tentacles never try to re-grapple anyone. If you beat the grapple check initially or if you break free, the tentacles leave you alone unless you leave and re-enter the area. Second, the tentacles may not deal any damage when they initially grapple a target. I'm actually not sure about this one -- if anyone (Hyp?) has firm reasoning either way, please chime in. Normally, when one creature grapples another, it deals damage immediately as part of the grapple. However, this is a spell rather than an actual grappling creature, so it doesn't necessarily follow the normal grappling rules. If you go just by what the spell text says, damage is only dealt "Once the tentacles grapple an opponent, ... each round on your turn". That would mean that if a creature fails its initial grapple check against the spell, it's grappled but takes no damage. If it fails to escape, then the tentacles start making grapple checks to damage it on the caster's next action. [/QUOTE]

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