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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2860611" data-attributes="member: 2011">According to the python's entry and the grapple rules, it appears that it does lethal damage with the bite and possibly nonlethal damage with the constrict:It appears that the constrict can only be done either on a normal grapple, or as a grapple after a bite / Improved Grab attempt.In either case, it is a Grapple. Grapple does damage as per an unarmed strike (unless the creature has Improved Unarmed Strike).There should be no difference between an extremely strong man squeezing an opponent and a snake doing it. Constrict does not actually state that there is a difference, but Improved Grab does state that constrict is part of a grapple.The only portion of the Constrict rules that might contradict this is that Constrict can "crush an opponent" and deals "bludgeoning damage". This could be read as lethal damage, but it does not actually call it out. I suspect many DMs will read this as lethal damage.As is, the constrict rules (and EBT) rules should be the same as other "pinned / crushed / suffocation rules". Nonlethal damage until the creature falls unconscious at which point new damage is lethal damage (see the Earthquake spell). A constricting snake suffocates its prey, it really does not crush it per se.Note: this is different than drowning where the character is not actually being "slowly crushed".Getting back to EBT, I do think that the designers meant both Constrict and EBT to do lethal damage (although why these would be lethal and the high level Earthquake spell is not is kind of strange). But, I do not think they worded EBT in a manner which indicates that it is definitely lethal.</blockquote>

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