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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ElectricDragon" data-source="post: 3055671" data-attributes="member: 10778">The ranks for Tumble set at 5 stop a Fighter from getting the Evaions feat until 7th level (Cross-class skill). Adding Skill Focus (Tumble) does nothing, but raising the ranks required to 6 means the Ftr has to wait til 9th level.Putting Improved Evasion at 12 ranks of Tumble means any class without it as a class skill can not get the feat until epic levels (21st level).Uncanny Dodge: Again, Skill Focus (Spot) does nothing, but Spot ranks at 6 means a Ftr has to wait until 9th level to get this feat. Druids, Rangers, Rogues, and Monks could pick it up at 3rd level (Class skill). Add that you need Spot and Listen at 7 ranks and Alertness (gets both skills in one feat) and Ftrs need to wait til 11th level to get this feat. Drds, Rgrs, and Mnks can get it at 4th level (when Rogues get it as an ability).Again, you are not listing all the prerequisites and that could get dirty for those classes that do get the abilities. What other feats say that several Core Classes cannot take them? If you make it so that there is no advantage to take them (you can't get it earlier) then no one of those classes will take them, and problem is solved without adding unneeded special rules.CiaoDave</blockquote>