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<blockquote data-quote="Majushi" data-source="post: 4391712" data-attributes="member: 71401"><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: white">Not really, considering there are only 15 Wizard Spells that can affect either Mettle or Evasion.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: white">4 are Paragon Path Powers, i.e. lvl 20 Wizards. You have other things to worry about than half damage at this point...</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: white">That leaves:</span></p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: white">Freezing Cloud - lvl 1</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: white">Sleep - lvl 1</span></span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">- These two compete with eachoter. I.e. not likely to fight both at the same time.</span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: white">Fireball - lvl 5</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: white">Stinking Cloud - lvl 5</span></span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">- See above for level 1</span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: white">Ice Storm - lvl 9</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: white">Blast of Cold - lvl 15</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: white">Acid Wave - lvl 19</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: white">Elemental Maw - lvl 25</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: white">Greater Ice Storm - lvl 29</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: white">Legion's Hold - lvl 29</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: white">Meteor Swarm - lvl 29</span></span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">- These three compete with eachoter. I.e. not likely to fight all three at the same time.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p>That means that in reality, a wizard at level 30 will not have more than 8 spells that can be ignored with misses by Mettle/Evasion.</p><p>(1 lvl1, 1 lvl5, 9+15+19+25, 1 lvl29, 1 paragon)</p><p> </p><p>Thanks to the restrictions on dailies anyway, there is only a possible 4 he can have. (lvl 30 = 2 at will, 4 encounter, 4 daily, 7 utility)</p><p> </p><p>And he has to have selected those specifically... (although granted, this is where the choice of two from spellbook or even three with Expanded Spellbook comes in handy)</p><p> </p><p>Overall, as Paragon Tier feats, I am unimpressed.</p><p> </p><p>Granted, versus monsters they can be good. But again, they are very situational. If by chance my DM was heavy on the dragons in his campaign then Evasion may be good.</p><p> </p><p>Other than that the two would be a colossal waste of time IMHO...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Majushi, post: 4391712, member: 71401"] [COLOR=white][/COLOR] [COLOR=white]Not really, considering there are only 15 Wizard Spells that can affect either Mettle or Evasion.[/COLOR] [COLOR=white]4 are Paragon Path Powers, i.e. lvl 20 Wizards. You have other things to worry about than half damage at this point...[/COLOR] [COLOR=white]That leaves:[/COLOR] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=white][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=white]Freezing Cloud - lvl 1[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=white]Sleep - lvl 1[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]- These two compete with eachoter. I.e. not likely to fight both at the same time.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=white][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=white]Fireball - lvl 5[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=white]Stinking Cloud - lvl 5[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]- See above for level 1[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=white][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=white]Ice Storm - lvl 9[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=white]Blast of Cold - lvl 15[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=white]Acid Wave - lvl 19[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=white]Elemental Maw - lvl 25[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=white]Greater Ice Storm - lvl 29[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=white]Legion's Hold - lvl 29[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=white]Meteor Swarm - lvl 29[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]- These three compete with eachoter. I.e. not likely to fight all three at the same time.[/SIZE][/FONT] That means that in reality, a wizard at level 30 will not have more than 8 spells that can be ignored with misses by Mettle/Evasion. (1 lvl1, 1 lvl5, 9+15+19+25, 1 lvl29, 1 paragon) Thanks to the restrictions on dailies anyway, there is only a possible 4 he can have. (lvl 30 = 2 at will, 4 encounter, 4 daily, 7 utility) And he has to have selected those specifically... (although granted, this is where the choice of two from spellbook or even three with Expanded Spellbook comes in handy) Overall, as Paragon Tier feats, I am unimpressed. Granted, versus monsters they can be good. But again, they are very situational. If by chance my DM was heavy on the dragons in his campaign then Evasion may be good. Other than that the two would be a colossal waste of time IMHO... [/QUOTE]
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