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<blockquote data-quote="Kheti sa-Menik" data-source="post: 3417400" data-attributes="member: 22721"><p>This past Monday. Our group is running two campaigns and we alternate. I run my campaign for a month and one other guy runs his for a month.</p><p>There's five of us in total. </p><p></p><p>The other DM is an old friend of mine from way back and its his house. He's the most mellow guy in the world. There's also the Girl, the Munchkin, and D. D was the source of the issue. He and I get along sorta...we've drank together and seen movies. But our philosophies of gaming seem very different. I believe the rules exist to serve the game/story and if they need to be altered/set aside to do so, the DM can do so. I also believe that the point of the campaign is to tell compelling stories about interesting characters in fantastic situations. Vermisilitude is very important to me as is some sense of realism. D seems to believe that the rules are rigid items, inflexible and unconditional. He and I have come to odds many many times.</p><p>During a description, I used the word cowering to describe a guard's reaction to the PCs. Then when the guard attacked one of the PCs, D complained that I didn't take into account the guard's cowered status. I asked D what he meant..the guard is not cowered. D says "You said he was cowered!" I said that the guard was described as cowering. I got honked off because I will not alter flavor descriptions or be bound from creating cool descriptions because a word happens to have specific game meanings. Does that mean I have to be careful not to use shaken or panicked to describe someone because they have game connotations? I will use whatever words I know to convey imagery. </p><p></p><p>D also believes that using DM authority to even stray a little from the rules is essentially screwing his character over.</p><p></p><p>These problems have been building over the years I've known him. </p><p></p><p>Monday night, his character down in single digit HPs charges into a room with a wizard he knows is fairly powerful. He eats a lightning bolt and goes down. </p><p>The other PCs win the day and kill the wizard. D's PC is stabilized. He's the cleric and no one in the group has potions or the ability to heal (this is a low magic campaign). So they drag his body just three rooms away and decide the bed down for the night.</p><p>They are invading underground catacombs, they know there are more enemies deeper in, they know the tribals are going to come in force but they decide to bed down. D is pushing this so they can rest enough to get his PC back in the action. </p><p>Of course they are attacked before too much time goes by. </p><p></p><p>D is not happy that he can't participate and threatens to leave. The standing PCs manage to fight off the enemy, protect D's PC's body, and even rescue the other PC who was captured. </p><p></p><p>D all the while is threatening to leave because I won't miraculously bring his character to full consciousness.</p><p></p><p>Finally, D gets up to leave and the other DM at the table says "Why are you throwing a tantrum and going home?" The other three of us sit silently and look at each other. </p><p>Basically, other DM tells D that he is being childish and selfish, being rude and inconsiderate to the rest of the group. </p><p>I'm shocked because I've never seen other DM in all the years I've known him do something like this. </p><p>Other DM points out to D that in both campaigns at different times, a PC has been removed from the action. But the player didn't stomp out, he stayed and offered advice, looked up rules, and generally participated. </p><p></p><p>D packed his stuff up and said if he can't do anything why should he stay and blamed me for not having somehow brought him back in. Other DM asks him if he's so childish that he needs to be the center of attention and be entertained every single second he's there.</p><p>Other DM advises that maybe he shouldn't come back again if he can't be an adult.</p><p></p><p>D simply says "See you around" and leaves.</p><p></p><p>Stunned silence. </p><p></p><p>I have no idea if D will show up Monday night. He hasn't contacted anyone so who knows?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kheti sa-Menik, post: 3417400, member: 22721"] This past Monday. Our group is running two campaigns and we alternate. I run my campaign for a month and one other guy runs his for a month. There's five of us in total. The other DM is an old friend of mine from way back and its his house. He's the most mellow guy in the world. There's also the Girl, the Munchkin, and D. D was the source of the issue. He and I get along sorta...we've drank together and seen movies. But our philosophies of gaming seem very different. I believe the rules exist to serve the game/story and if they need to be altered/set aside to do so, the DM can do so. I also believe that the point of the campaign is to tell compelling stories about interesting characters in fantastic situations. Vermisilitude is very important to me as is some sense of realism. D seems to believe that the rules are rigid items, inflexible and unconditional. He and I have come to odds many many times. During a description, I used the word cowering to describe a guard's reaction to the PCs. Then when the guard attacked one of the PCs, D complained that I didn't take into account the guard's cowered status. I asked D what he meant..the guard is not cowered. D says "You said he was cowered!" I said that the guard was described as cowering. I got honked off because I will not alter flavor descriptions or be bound from creating cool descriptions because a word happens to have specific game meanings. Does that mean I have to be careful not to use shaken or panicked to describe someone because they have game connotations? I will use whatever words I know to convey imagery. D also believes that using DM authority to even stray a little from the rules is essentially screwing his character over. These problems have been building over the years I've known him. Monday night, his character down in single digit HPs charges into a room with a wizard he knows is fairly powerful. He eats a lightning bolt and goes down. The other PCs win the day and kill the wizard. D's PC is stabilized. He's the cleric and no one in the group has potions or the ability to heal (this is a low magic campaign). So they drag his body just three rooms away and decide the bed down for the night. They are invading underground catacombs, they know there are more enemies deeper in, they know the tribals are going to come in force but they decide to bed down. D is pushing this so they can rest enough to get his PC back in the action. Of course they are attacked before too much time goes by. D is not happy that he can't participate and threatens to leave. The standing PCs manage to fight off the enemy, protect D's PC's body, and even rescue the other PC who was captured. D all the while is threatening to leave because I won't miraculously bring his character to full consciousness. Finally, D gets up to leave and the other DM at the table says "Why are you throwing a tantrum and going home?" The other three of us sit silently and look at each other. Basically, other DM tells D that he is being childish and selfish, being rude and inconsiderate to the rest of the group. I'm shocked because I've never seen other DM in all the years I've known him do something like this. Other DM points out to D that in both campaigns at different times, a PC has been removed from the action. But the player didn't stomp out, he stayed and offered advice, looked up rules, and generally participated. D packed his stuff up and said if he can't do anything why should he stay and blamed me for not having somehow brought him back in. Other DM asks him if he's so childish that he needs to be the center of attention and be entertained every single second he's there. Other DM advises that maybe he shouldn't come back again if he can't be an adult. D simply says "See you around" and leaves. Stunned silence. I have no idea if D will show up Monday night. He hasn't contacted anyone so who knows? [/QUOTE]
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