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<blockquote data-quote="candidus_cogitens" data-source="post: 501121" data-attributes="member: 770"><p>Bestow Curse has a duration of permanent, yet it cannot be dispelled.</p><p></p><p>Someone is bound to say that most spells (other than instantaneous durations) can be dispelled, unless the spell descriptions specifically says that it cannot be, as is the case with Bestow Curse. But, the Dispel Magic description is somewhat vague: "Some spells, as detailed in their descriptions, can't be defeated by dispel magic." That clearly implies that in most cases it will be specifically stated, but it does not go so far as to say that it will always be stated. What I am saying is that perhaps Continual Flame is unusual in this regard.</p><p></p><p>The fact that it says "permanent" does not mean a whole lot, since there is no more appropriate designation to use. It doesn't have a limited time, so ... what else would you put there for "duration"?</p><p></p><p>It would be nice if the spell description said either:</p><p>a) This spell permanently transforms an object into a magical item and cannot be dispelled, or ...</p><p>b) Although this spell permanently alters the object, it does not turn it into a magical item, and can be dispelled.</p><p></p><p>.... but it doesn't. </p><p></p><p>In all likelihood, this is not a matter that the writers carefully considered. It seems that in some ways they thought of it as a magic item, but in other ways it is different.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="candidus_cogitens, post: 501121, member: 770"] Bestow Curse has a duration of permanent, yet it cannot be dispelled. Someone is bound to say that most spells (other than instantaneous durations) can be dispelled, unless the spell descriptions specifically says that it cannot be, as is the case with Bestow Curse. But, the Dispel Magic description is somewhat vague: "Some spells, as detailed in their descriptions, can't be defeated by dispel magic." That clearly implies that in most cases it will be specifically stated, but it does not go so far as to say that it will always be stated. What I am saying is that perhaps Continual Flame is unusual in this regard. The fact that it says "permanent" does not mean a whole lot, since there is no more appropriate designation to use. It doesn't have a limited time, so ... what else would you put there for "duration"? It would be nice if the spell description said either: a) This spell permanently transforms an object into a magical item and cannot be dispelled, or ... b) Although this spell permanently alters the object, it does not turn it into a magical item, and can be dispelled. .... but it doesn't. In all likelihood, this is not a matter that the writers carefully considered. It seems that in some ways they thought of it as a magic item, but in other ways it is different. [/QUOTE]
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