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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 7750646" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>"Cheapens"? It still costs $27.98 on Amazon, whether the player "misreads" a hit roll or not. This is not some noble endeavor or something. It is 14 year-olds with chips and soda and a good time. I think the Cheeto dust rather puts us past the idea that we have to worry about the game being cheap.</p><p></p><p>And, when faced with an article that has at least some surveying backing it, claiming that you know what it does for "most" is perhaps not the best rhetorical direction. Let's have you lay out yoru data next to theirs, and then we can talk, hm?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh, good grief, another with the absolutism and extremes!</p><p></p><p>Here's a rhetorical question for anyone who wants to go down this road - Do you, or anyone you know, ever exceed the speed limit while driving a car? Has this led your communities to being a permanent reasonable facsimile of the movie, "The Purge"? Are you now typing from your safe-room/bunker, because breaking the rules has led to total societal breakdown? If not, then maybe you should walk it back a bit, because that's what your argument amounts to.</p><p></p><p>I know it doesn't make for astounding or melodramatic rhetoric, but in the real world, people often do things in moderation. They don't always drink alcohol until they are blind drunk, they don't eat entire cheesecakes in one sitting when they go off their diets, and they don't break every single rule all the time. Folks are perfectly capable of cheating in moderation too - when the rule is a small thing, it doesn't matter a whole lot, but it would be irksome or annoying to follow the rules strictly, they might deviate; but when it is important, they realize that not sticking to them isn't as much fun, and play by the book.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 7750646, member: 177"] "Cheapens"? It still costs $27.98 on Amazon, whether the player "misreads" a hit roll or not. This is not some noble endeavor or something. It is 14 year-olds with chips and soda and a good time. I think the Cheeto dust rather puts us past the idea that we have to worry about the game being cheap. And, when faced with an article that has at least some surveying backing it, claiming that you know what it does for "most" is perhaps not the best rhetorical direction. Let's have you lay out yoru data next to theirs, and then we can talk, hm? Oh, good grief, another with the absolutism and extremes! Here's a rhetorical question for anyone who wants to go down this road - Do you, or anyone you know, ever exceed the speed limit while driving a car? Has this led your communities to being a permanent reasonable facsimile of the movie, "The Purge"? Are you now typing from your safe-room/bunker, because breaking the rules has led to total societal breakdown? If not, then maybe you should walk it back a bit, because that's what your argument amounts to. I know it doesn't make for astounding or melodramatic rhetoric, but in the real world, people often do things in moderation. They don't always drink alcohol until they are blind drunk, they don't eat entire cheesecakes in one sitting when they go off their diets, and they don't break every single rule all the time. Folks are perfectly capable of cheating in moderation too - when the rule is a small thing, it doesn't matter a whole lot, but it would be irksome or annoying to follow the rules strictly, they might deviate; but when it is important, they realize that not sticking to them isn't as much fun, and play by the book. [/QUOTE]
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