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<blockquote data-quote="Sunseeker" data-source="post: 7750793">You know what bothers me more than cheating?People who bail on games.&nbsp; I'll be far faster to boot someone who consistently cancels, no-shows or arrives late (like half-way through) than I will to boot someone who may be fudging their dice rolls.&nbsp; At least the cheater shows up and contributes!&nbsp; &quot;Beating the players&quot; isn't hard.&nbsp; If I want to, Cheatin' John will die horribly.&nbsp; No amount of Nat 20's will save his butt.&nbsp; But the game isn't about me winning or them winning.&nbsp; It's not about me trying to kill their characters. Shoot, when I ran Ravenloft (however briefly) I just rolled the dice behind the screen for sound effects and then narrated what happened as was cinematically appropriate.&nbsp; Sometimes the bad-guys crit.&nbsp; Sometimes they fumbled.&nbsp; Usually when it would be most &quot;awesome&quot; to make them look scary or to give the players a fighting chance.&nbsp; &quot;The Game&quot; is about everyone getting together and having a good time.&nbsp; If Cheatin' John is preventing us from having THAT, then I'll boot him.&nbsp; Otherwise, Cheatin' John is likely to learn real quick that there's more to my games than &quot;winning&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sunseeker, post: 7750793"] You know what bothers me more than cheating? People who bail on games. I'll be far faster to boot someone who consistently cancels, no-shows or arrives late (like half-way through) than I will to boot someone who may be fudging their dice rolls. At least the cheater shows up and contributes! "Beating the players" isn't hard. If I want to, Cheatin' John will die horribly. No amount of Nat 20's will save his butt. But the game isn't about me winning or them winning. It's not about me trying to kill their characters. Shoot, when I ran Ravenloft (however briefly) I just rolled the dice behind the screen for sound effects and then narrated what happened as was cinematically appropriate. Sometimes the bad-guys crit. Sometimes they fumbled. Usually when it would be most "awesome" to make them look scary or to give the players a fighting chance. "The Game" is about everyone getting together and having a good time. If Cheatin' John is preventing us from having THAT, then I'll boot him. Otherwise, Cheatin' John is likely to learn real quick that there's more to my games than "winning". [/QUOTE]

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