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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 7754755" data-attributes="member: 23751"><p>I get what you are saying, but it still boils down to the DM using one rule to alter another. You are calling it cheating for the DM to do that. There's no difference between a DM using a rule to alter die rolls(another rule) and the DM using any other rule to alter rules other than rolling. You are just arbitrarily declaring one to be cheating(de facto or otherwise) and the other not.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I just popped over and it took me about a minute to find someone saying that DMs alter dice for the benefit of the players, and players do it to cheat. That clearly indicates, even if they didn't use the phrase "the DM can't cheat," that the person only views it as cheating on the part of the player.</p><p></p><p>I found this in another thread, "It doesn't make sense to say that a DM is "cheating". Players cheat in a game, referees adjudicate."</p><p></p><p>And this thread has all kinds of people saying cheat is the wrong word. <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/mattcolville/comments/8nquej/should_the_gm_cheat_in_dd_questions_for_fellow/" target="_blank">https://www.reddit.com/r/mattcolville/comments/8nquej/should_the_gm_cheat_in_dd_questions_for_fellow/</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 7754755, member: 23751"] I get what you are saying, but it still boils down to the DM using one rule to alter another. You are calling it cheating for the DM to do that. There's no difference between a DM using a rule to alter die rolls(another rule) and the DM using any other rule to alter rules other than rolling. You are just arbitrarily declaring one to be cheating(de facto or otherwise) and the other not. I just popped over and it took me about a minute to find someone saying that DMs alter dice for the benefit of the players, and players do it to cheat. That clearly indicates, even if they didn't use the phrase "the DM can't cheat," that the person only views it as cheating on the part of the player. I found this in another thread, "It doesn't make sense to say that a DM is "cheating". Players cheat in a game, referees adjudicate." And this thread has all kinds of people saying cheat is the wrong word. [url]https://www.reddit.com/r/mattcolville/comments/8nquej/should_the_gm_cheat_in_dd_questions_for_fellow/[/url] [/QUOTE]
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