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<blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 7157518" data-attributes="member: 58172"><p>‘AD&D didn't support what you wanted to do, as much as it didn't get in your way.’</p><p></p><p>Ok, fair enough. But. In AD&D 1e, the rules are actively trying to encourage the DM world building and to not get in the DMs way.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, the 1e Druid reveres actual normal plants. In some sense, plants are ‘intelligent’. How different is this from the real world? If humans mistreat the environment, plants lose their ability to flourish, and eventually everything starts to die. The collective ‘lifeforce’ of our natural world can thrive or diminish. For the 1e Druid, plant life is sacred and a source of magical power. (The 4e Druid is similarly nonpolytheistic, ‘primal’ and animistic, but moreso includes animal life as well plant life.)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In the monotheistic traditions that I find interesting, ‘idolatry’ (the cultic worship of representative images) extends to mean, the worship of any image that is ‘in front of’ the imageless God.</p><p></p><p>Divinity is infinite, transcends the space-time fabric, simultaneously past, present, and future.</p><p></p><p>If Zeus ‘objectively’ existed, then he is an image. If he killed all the other immortals to make himself the sole surviving immortal, he would still be a finite image, an idol. It is strictly forbidden to worship him.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The current 5e SRD refers to polytheism (‘gods’, ‘deities’, names, etc.) probably over a hundred times. It is awkward for me to edit pdfs, but as an experiment I highlighted in yellow each time polytheism shows up, and I lost count and lost interest.</p><p></p><p>When you reach the point that you are sick of polytheism, you notice it every time.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ideally, there needs to be 5e rules that are setting free that DMs can easily incorporate to flavor for their own campaign settings.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Yaarel, post: 7157518, member: 58172"] ‘AD&D didn't support what you wanted to do, as much as it didn't get in your way.’ Ok, fair enough. But. In AD&D 1e, the rules are actively trying to encourage the DM world building and to not get in the DMs way. Yes, the 1e Druid reveres actual normal plants. In some sense, plants are ‘intelligent’. How different is this from the real world? If humans mistreat the environment, plants lose their ability to flourish, and eventually everything starts to die. The collective ‘lifeforce’ of our natural world can thrive or diminish. For the 1e Druid, plant life is sacred and a source of magical power. (The 4e Druid is similarly nonpolytheistic, ‘primal’ and animistic, but moreso includes animal life as well plant life.) In the monotheistic traditions that I find interesting, ‘idolatry’ (the cultic worship of representative images) extends to mean, the worship of any image that is ‘in front of’ the imageless God. Divinity is infinite, transcends the space-time fabric, simultaneously past, present, and future. If Zeus ‘objectively’ existed, then he is an image. If he killed all the other immortals to make himself the sole surviving immortal, he would still be a finite image, an idol. It is strictly forbidden to worship him. The current 5e SRD refers to polytheism (‘gods’, ‘deities’, names, etc.) probably over a hundred times. It is awkward for me to edit pdfs, but as an experiment I highlighted in yellow each time polytheism shows up, and I lost count and lost interest. When you reach the point that you are sick of polytheism, you notice it every time. Ideally, there needs to be 5e rules that are setting free that DMs can easily incorporate to flavor for their own campaign settings. [/QUOTE]
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