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<blockquote data-quote="Ariosto" data-source="post: 4828405" data-attributes="member: 80487">The point of it all originally had to do with the original meaning of &quot;campaign&quot;, something quite different from today's common context of &quot;THE party&quot; engaged in &quot;THE adventure&quot;. Like many such things, the approach may not work so well when transplanted out of its native environment. 4E is very alien to that; as the designers suggest, &quot;the game works better in a lot of ways if you just assume that the characters all gain experience and advance levels at the same rate&quot;.For a lot of people, it has been (and continues to be) a lot of fun to play the game as originally conceived. It's a game of strategy more than a string of tactical set pieces. All sorts of aspects, from recovery of hit points and gaining of experience points to the dynamics among class capabilities, were fitted to that concept.The basic principle you'll probably want to follow if trying &quot;everyone starts at 1st level&quot; with the newer game framework and a rules set designed for it is to reduce the significance of levels. Using old D&amp;D, I found that the HP system from Arduin Vol. III served nicely. A male human fighter with constitution 14 got 35 HP (a female 36) at 1st level, going up +1 per level for 70 (or 71) at level 36.With WotC-D&amp;D, other level factors are more significant than they were in that context.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ariosto, post: 4828405, member: 80487"] The point of it all originally had to do with the original meaning of "campaign", something quite different from today's common context of "THE party" engaged in "THE adventure". Like many such things, the approach may not work so well when transplanted out of its native environment. 4E is very alien to that; as the designers suggest, "the game works better in a lot of ways if you just assume that the characters all gain experience and advance levels at the same rate". For a lot of people, it has been (and continues to be) a lot of fun to play the game as originally conceived. It's a game of strategy more than a string of tactical set pieces. All sorts of aspects, from recovery of hit points and gaining of experience points to the dynamics among class capabilities, were fitted to that concept. The basic principle you'll probably want to follow if trying "everyone starts at 1st level" with the newer game framework and a rules set designed for it is to [b]reduce the significance of levels[/b]. Using old D&D, I found that the HP system from Arduin Vol. III served nicely. A male human fighter with constitution 14 got 35 HP (a female 36) at 1st level, going up +1 per level for 70 (or 71) at level 36. With WotC-D&D, other level factors are more significant than they were in that context. [/QUOTE]

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