Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
NOW LIVE! Today's the day you meet your new best friend. You don’t have to leave Wolfy behind... In 'Pets & Sidekicks' your companions level up with you!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Everyone starts at 1st level
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 4830633" data-attributes="member: 7635"><p>I think that's also a symptom of the gaming moving out of the "dungeon" into more "social" encounters. Before, when all you cared about was exploring X dungeon of Y stretch of wilderness, it didn't matter much who was the DM. It was just another "stretch of unknown" to explore and conquer. But as the game became more complex (involving plots and politics, re-occurring NPCs, and PCs with more depth and backstory) such things attached themselves to the PCs and their "place" in the world. Heck, try and move a name-level PC with a dominion from one DM to another and you see the inherent problem!</p><p></p><p>As a side note, I think part of this was the fact D&D never set out to define a "world" as many RPGs do. Palladium Fantasy is an RPG, but its also a setting. Ditto with White Wolf's "World of Darkness". D&D has no one world we all assume to run, we have world<strong>s</strong>, some unique (homebrews) some shared (pick a setting). However, I can't assume Remathilis coming from the City of Greyhawk is true for your game just because it was true in mine. </p><p></p><p>(D&D does foster the multi-verse concept, which allows planar travel from world to world, but that was much more of a patch to allow such game-to-game travel. It'd been much easier to assume the default world D&D used was Oerth (for example) and spend 30 years mapping that out in ultrafine detail, rather than have a dozen settings like Krynn, Toril, Eberron, etc. It'd also be much more boring to have only one "D&D" world. Such is the trade-off.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Remathilis, post: 4830633, member: 7635"] I think that's also a symptom of the gaming moving out of the "dungeon" into more "social" encounters. Before, when all you cared about was exploring X dungeon of Y stretch of wilderness, it didn't matter much who was the DM. It was just another "stretch of unknown" to explore and conquer. But as the game became more complex (involving plots and politics, re-occurring NPCs, and PCs with more depth and backstory) such things attached themselves to the PCs and their "place" in the world. Heck, try and move a name-level PC with a dominion from one DM to another and you see the inherent problem! As a side note, I think part of this was the fact D&D never set out to define a "world" as many RPGs do. Palladium Fantasy is an RPG, but its also a setting. Ditto with White Wolf's "World of Darkness". D&D has no one world we all assume to run, we have world[B]s[/B], some unique (homebrews) some shared (pick a setting). However, I can't assume Remathilis coming from the City of Greyhawk is true for your game just because it was true in mine. (D&D does foster the multi-verse concept, which allows planar travel from world to world, but that was much more of a patch to allow such game-to-game travel. It'd been much easier to assume the default world D&D used was Oerth (for example) and spend 30 years mapping that out in ultrafine detail, rather than have a dozen settings like Krynn, Toril, Eberron, etc. It'd also be much more boring to have only one "D&D" world. Such is the trade-off.) [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Everyone starts at 1st level
Top