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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 6397093" data-attributes="member: 9037">I can see starting a brand new player at first level give them a chance to experience building a character from first level also it is easier for them than handing them a character sheet with so many options.I have been playing since 1E and I have found that I really dislike first level it is a grind to get through I have experienced more than enough how hard it is to survive and  and it is no longer a learning experience. I do it while impatiently waiting to get to higher levels. So if I had a DM who said if you die back to first I would not find it fun. I don't think I would chose to play. I have played characters built at higher levels and enjoyed them as much as characters built from first. Especially if I was already playing in the campaign. There are other game systems where it works better when we play Shadowrun a new character is always built using the points we all started with so yes you are behind in some ways and you don't have the same about money and equipment upgrades. But since it is not a level based game the difference in skills is not as wide.I have not played fifth yet so I don't know how spells work an how much more powerful say a tenth level character is over a first. But from playing Pathfinder and 3.5 I know that a first level character is handicapped  it is damn hard to actually accomplish anything. If you are a wizard most of the spells are not going to have much impact on higher CR threats. Plus higher CR threats will have better saves. Fighters with such low BABs are going to have to hit higher ACs and are going to miss a lot. And as others have said a well placed area effect spell is going to kill a first level character most of the time.As the DM what do you do? Do you pull your punches with the first level PC do you lower the CR threat so they can contribute? It seems like a lot of extra work for the DM when planning encounters.</blockquote>

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