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<blockquote data-quote="Elric" data-source="post: 6398493" data-attributes="member: 1139"><p>If you split XP equally, the 1st level PC will level very quickly in a high level party. The rest of the party will level more slowly, assuming that the GM keeps the encounters a correspondingly similar difficulty for the weaker state of party with a 1st level PC instead of a higher level one. </p><p></p><p>And it's true that the 5e 1st level PC won't stay first level for long if he splits XP equally with the high level party. But that's because in the encounter against 2 Fire Giants, 2 Ogres and 2 Kobolds he fought the Kobolds while 3 other level 16 party members fought the Giants and Ogres. Unless the party dropped the Kobolds with an Area of effect, in which case he either avoids combat entirely or uses ranged attacks from a distance and hopes that none of the Giants squash him in one hit. For that he goes up to level 3 (almost level 4!), more than doubling his hit points. </p><p></p><p>The character could make it to level 5, out of the "apprentice tier," in 2-4 encounters, which might be only a day of adventuring. Will it feel like organic growth when he increases as much in power after his first encounter as the original 1st level party did in 6 sessions?</p><p></p><p>Play time, and not gaining levels or starting out at a low level, is the most important way that characters grow. So while I see plenty of issues caused by starting new PCs at first level, I also don't see how the claimed benefits will readily materialize.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elric, post: 6398493, member: 1139"] If you split XP equally, the 1st level PC will level very quickly in a high level party. The rest of the party will level more slowly, assuming that the GM keeps the encounters a correspondingly similar difficulty for the weaker state of party with a 1st level PC instead of a higher level one. And it's true that the 5e 1st level PC won't stay first level for long if he splits XP equally with the high level party. But that's because in the encounter against 2 Fire Giants, 2 Ogres and 2 Kobolds he fought the Kobolds while 3 other level 16 party members fought the Giants and Ogres. Unless the party dropped the Kobolds with an Area of effect, in which case he either avoids combat entirely or uses ranged attacks from a distance and hopes that none of the Giants squash him in one hit. For that he goes up to level 3 (almost level 4!), more than doubling his hit points. The character could make it to level 5, out of the "apprentice tier," in 2-4 encounters, which might be only a day of adventuring. Will it feel like organic growth when he increases as much in power after his first encounter as the original 1st level party did in 6 sessions? Play time, and not gaining levels or starting out at a low level, is the most important way that characters grow. So while I see plenty of issues caused by starting new PCs at first level, I also don't see how the claimed benefits will readily materialize. [/QUOTE]
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