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<blockquote data-quote="JiffyPopTart" data-source="post: 6398534" data-attributes="member: 4881"><p>Bilbo actually DID things in The Hobbit in addition to just making a crapton of stealth rolls successfully. He fast talked trolls, straight-up fought some spiders, fast talked Gollum, fast talked dragons (apparently hugely powerful beings in Middle Earth are very vulnerable to fast talking).</p><p></p><p>Frodo, on the other hand, pretty much does NOTHING in LotR except make a crapton of stealth rolls, walk a LOT, and fails a very important final will save at the end of the campaign. The amount of times he is saved by a Mary Sue NPC to advance the plot and keep him alive is humorous....</p><p>Fatty the Hobbit (NPC)</p><p>Tom Bombadil (NPC)</p><p>Aragorn (Solo NPC)</p><p>Elrond X2 (NPC, once for drowning the Nazgul, once for performing miracle surgery)</p><p>Galdalf (self sacrifice)</p><p>Sam X7 or X8 (NPC, technically Frodo's hireling)</p><p>Gollum (Evil NPC)</p><p></p><p>Frodo's Battle Score</p><p>Nazgul in the shire (ran away)</p><p>Nazgul again in the shire (ran away)</p><p>Tree roots (rescued by Bombadil)</p><p>Barrow Wight (Actually hit a monster!, but then saved by Bombadil)</p><p>Nazgul again in Bree(ran away)</p><p>Nazgul a third time at Weathertop (stabbed and dying)</p><p>Nazgul a fourth time at the river (saved by Elrond via 10th level spell)</p><p>Goblins/Orcs/Cave Troll (knocked out but saved by magic armor)</p><p>Boromir (ran away)</p><p>Gollum (A Victory!!!!)</p><p>Faramir (captured, released)</p><p>Shelob (ko'ed)</p><p>Gollum (lost the ring)</p><p></p><p>Edit: Oh, how could I forget....Balrog (ran away)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JiffyPopTart, post: 6398534, member: 4881"] Bilbo actually DID things in The Hobbit in addition to just making a crapton of stealth rolls successfully. He fast talked trolls, straight-up fought some spiders, fast talked Gollum, fast talked dragons (apparently hugely powerful beings in Middle Earth are very vulnerable to fast talking). Frodo, on the other hand, pretty much does NOTHING in LotR except make a crapton of stealth rolls, walk a LOT, and fails a very important final will save at the end of the campaign. The amount of times he is saved by a Mary Sue NPC to advance the plot and keep him alive is humorous.... Fatty the Hobbit (NPC) Tom Bombadil (NPC) Aragorn (Solo NPC) Elrond X2 (NPC, once for drowning the Nazgul, once for performing miracle surgery) Galdalf (self sacrifice) Sam X7 or X8 (NPC, technically Frodo's hireling) Gollum (Evil NPC) Frodo's Battle Score Nazgul in the shire (ran away) Nazgul again in the shire (ran away) Tree roots (rescued by Bombadil) Barrow Wight (Actually hit a monster!, but then saved by Bombadil) Nazgul again in Bree(ran away) Nazgul a third time at Weathertop (stabbed and dying) Nazgul a fourth time at the river (saved by Elrond via 10th level spell) Goblins/Orcs/Cave Troll (knocked out but saved by magic armor) Boromir (ran away) Gollum (A Victory!!!!) Faramir (captured, released) Shelob (ko'ed) Gollum (lost the ring) Edit: Oh, how could I forget....Balrog (ran away) [/QUOTE]
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