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<blockquote data-quote="Warunsun" data-source="post: 6400788" data-attributes="member: 6688054"><p>Very true. Plus you have to give a <em>Dungeon Master</em> a little time to get used to a system. If <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?81852-Desh-Rae-Halra" target="_blank"><em>Desh-Rae-Halra</em></a> was at <a href="http://www.gencon.com/" target="_blank"><em>GenCon</em></a> the DM may have only seen his or her PH once before running the adventure. It is not a great excuse but it is true. Heck, the DMG isn't even out yet. So I would suggest to <em>Desh-Rae-Halra</em> not to swear off all <a href="http://dnd.wizards.com/playevents/organized-play" target="_blank"><em>Organized Play</em></a> yet. You might not like it, however. It isn't for everyone. But you might want to give it a try again around <a href="http://www.originsgamefair.com/" target="_blank"><u>Origins</u></a> next year. By then the convention judges should be more used to the system.</p><p></p><p><u>As far as the original post goes:</u></p><p>I am currently DMing a <a href="http://www.trolllord.com/cnc/" target="_blank"><em>Castles & Crusades</em></a> based game set in the <em>Forgotten Realms</em> circa the 2nd edition timeline. C&C is very much like 1st or 2nd edition AD&D with a much simpler system. We recently had a returning player join us. He hadn't played AD&D in at-least 10 years, maybe a few more. I chose as the DM to have him create a first level character. During my game groups experiences with 3rd edition D&D and 4th edition D&D we generally always had a new player character come in at average party level or perhaps one level lower. We never made them join up with a first level character. It just doesn't work with 3E or 4E. It did work just fine this time with <em>Castles & Crusades</em> but the average party level was only 5th and C&C uses those "exponential" experience charts of yesteryear. He was able to mostly catch up pretty quickly. It also didn't hurt that you get experience points for finding magic items and gold like in old school AD&D. My group is definitely going to try out D&D fifth edition after the DMG comes out. I am not sure I would have had the returning player come in at minus 4 levels under the 5E system. It might work but I would have to read over the DMG and expectations on experience gain before deciding that. I would say it is too early to make such a decision for 5E but it definitely was fine with AD&D/C&C at levels 4-6.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Warunsun, post: 6400788, member: 6688054"] Very true. Plus you have to give a [I]Dungeon Master[/I] a little time to get used to a system. If [URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?81852-Desh-Rae-Halra"][I]Desh-Rae-Halra[/I][/URL] was at [URL="http://www.gencon.com/"][I]GenCon[/I][/URL] the DM may have only seen his or her PH once before running the adventure. It is not a great excuse but it is true. Heck, the DMG isn't even out yet. So I would suggest to [I]Desh-Rae-Halra[/I] not to swear off all [URL="http://dnd.wizards.com/playevents/organized-play"][I]Organized Play[/I][/URL] yet. You might not like it, however. It isn't for everyone. But you might want to give it a try again around [URL="http://www.originsgamefair.com/"][U]Origins[/U][/URL] next year. By then the convention judges should be more used to the system. [U]As far as the original post goes:[/U] I am currently DMing a [URL="http://www.trolllord.com/cnc/"][I]Castles & Crusades[/I][/URL] based game set in the [I]Forgotten Realms[/I] circa the 2nd edition timeline. C&C is very much like 1st or 2nd edition AD&D with a much simpler system. We recently had a returning player join us. He hadn't played AD&D in at-least 10 years, maybe a few more. I chose as the DM to have him create a first level character. During my game groups experiences with 3rd edition D&D and 4th edition D&D we generally always had a new player character come in at average party level or perhaps one level lower. We never made them join up with a first level character. It just doesn't work with 3E or 4E. It did work just fine this time with [I]Castles & Crusades[/I] but the average party level was only 5th and C&C uses those "exponential" experience charts of yesteryear. He was able to mostly catch up pretty quickly. It also didn't hurt that you get experience points for finding magic items and gold like in old school AD&D. My group is definitely going to try out D&D fifth edition after the DMG comes out. I am not sure I would have had the returning player come in at minus 4 levels under the 5E system. It might work but I would have to read over the DMG and expectations on experience gain before deciding that. I would say it is too early to make such a decision for 5E but it definitely was fine with AD&D/C&C at levels 4-6. [/QUOTE]
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