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<blockquote data-quote="the Jester" data-source="post: 6415072" data-attributes="member: 1210"><p>This is absolutely a complication of troupe play. For me, it's one that is worth working through, and I've so far always avoided the sort of paradox you mention; I'm trying hard in my urban game to have a sort of 'forced downtime' for most pcs, as they have to spend the work week doing their day jobs (one is in the army, one works for his clan, etc). Then they have the weekend for adventures. That's a mechanism that exists for several reasons, and it may fade if the pcs give up a lot of their ties to faction, clan, army, etc., but so far it has been very handy.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That rather defeats the purpose, though. </p><p></p><p>It would be fine in some games, but in one where part of the "style guideline" (if you will) of the campaign is ES@1st, then, well, your suggestion is pretty much not that.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oooh, I kinda like that. Maybe I'll allow pcs to do that. That's really cool.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Because every high-level bad guy has no minions under its level - 2 or something?</p><p></p><p>Dragons really ought to have plenty of kobolds or other low-level lackeys serving them. I don't know why the image rubs you wrong, but it's actually rather traditional and typical of bad-ass monsters in D&D, at least before 4e, to have a wide range of lower-level creatures serving under them. Heck, in some old modules, you have multiple levels of lackey- you have giants served by ogres and trolls served by goblins, for instance.</p><p></p><p>So I have to disagree with you on that. </p><p></p><p>Moreover, I don't know if you read my posts addressing <em>exactly this issue</em> upthread, but you're assuming that every adventure including one or more high-level pcs has monsters at that pc's CR, and you're overlooking the fact that a mess of low-level monsters is a very valid encounter for high-level pcs in 5e. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>More like:</p><p></p><p>STEVE: I'm staying in the back and to the side, so that if the dragon breathes I'm not caught with everyone else. </p><p></p><p>Or at least, that's my experience with this sort of scenario.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="the Jester, post: 6415072, member: 1210"] This is absolutely a complication of troupe play. For me, it's one that is worth working through, and I've so far always avoided the sort of paradox you mention; I'm trying hard in my urban game to have a sort of 'forced downtime' for most pcs, as they have to spend the work week doing their day jobs (one is in the army, one works for his clan, etc). Then they have the weekend for adventures. That's a mechanism that exists for several reasons, and it may fade if the pcs give up a lot of their ties to faction, clan, army, etc., but so far it has been very handy. That rather defeats the purpose, though. It would be fine in some games, but in one where part of the "style guideline" (if you will) of the campaign is ES@1st, then, well, your suggestion is pretty much not that. Oooh, I kinda like that. Maybe I'll allow pcs to do that. That's really cool. Because every high-level bad guy has no minions under its level - 2 or something? Dragons really ought to have plenty of kobolds or other low-level lackeys serving them. I don't know why the image rubs you wrong, but it's actually rather traditional and typical of bad-ass monsters in D&D, at least before 4e, to have a wide range of lower-level creatures serving under them. Heck, in some old modules, you have multiple levels of lackey- you have giants served by ogres and trolls served by goblins, for instance. So I have to disagree with you on that. Moreover, I don't know if you read my posts addressing [i]exactly this issue[/i] upthread, but you're assuming that every adventure including one or more high-level pcs has monsters at that pc's CR, and you're overlooking the fact that a mess of low-level monsters is a very valid encounter for high-level pcs in 5e. More like: STEVE: I'm staying in the back and to the side, so that if the dragon breathes I'm not caught with everyone else. Or at least, that's my experience with this sort of scenario. [/QUOTE]
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