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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 438179" data-attributes="member: 177">You are free, of course, to play it as you want in your own game.  But what you write above certainly isn't what the PHB says, on pg 88:"Evil characters and creatures debase or destroy innocent life, whether for fun or profit."and" 'Evil' implies hurting, oppressing, and killing others."These don't match what you've said.  Evil is far nastier than simply looking out for #1.  Your definition seems rather weak and narrow, to me.Evil can be self-serving (for profit or gain of some sort), but it doesn't need to be so.  Evil can be sociopathic - hurting people for the sheer joy of it.  Evil can also be religious fervor -the servitor of a dread god, who may gain power in service, but for whom that power is not the actual motivator.  Evil can be many things, not all of which serve the self.Evil is  about more than personal profit and convenience.  Evil actually preferrs taking a nastier course when it can. Evil goes out of it's way to hurt people.  Evil is as evil does - alignment is a long-term average of behavior and motivation.  Being at one of the extremes of the alignment axes (Good, Evil, Law, or Chaos), implies a dedication to a certain type of behavior.  Good characters aren't allowed to slack off on being good because it's inconvenient - if they stop acting good, you note the change in their alignment.  Similarly for Evil.  You gotta walk the walk, not just think the talk to yourself.If a nominally Evil character joins a group, sees they are mostly Good, and stops being evil simply to save his own skin, he's not really being Evil.  If he finds that by staying with this bunch he gets more $$ and safety, so long as he's honorable and helpful, he's not being Evil.  If he chooses to run with the group for a while, and seems to be generous, kind, loyal,and honorable because it allows him to hurt more people, or cause more pain in the long run - that's evil.And that's the danger - a really evil character doesn't stop doing evil things (if he does, he probably doesn't stay evil), he merely hides his evil from prying eyes, uses deception and lies.   Eventually, he slips up, and the party finds out.  Then the trouble starts.</blockquote>

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