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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 5008287" data-attributes="member: 4937">Agreement on that point isn't essential to my point.But this just opens up another whole can of worms, in that I don't think that the 'pride' in 'take pride in your work' is the same thing as the 'pride' I'm using.&nbsp; Here, we run up on limits in the english language where words for emotions are overloaded.&nbsp; I'd move to Greek, but I don't know the language well enough.No, I wouldn't say that it is.&nbsp; But, if you 'hate' hatred, its a very different sort of thing than hating Bob.Again, running up on problems with the langauge.&nbsp; Wrath is not just anger, but as wrath is used in two senses in English, I'll have to drop that word as too ambigious.&nbsp; However, anger at being wronged is evil.&nbsp; Sorry.&nbsp; The sense that 'I've been wronged, therefore I have a right to be angry', has been responsible for more of the world's evil than any other single thing.So, what would you describe as actual evil?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 5008287, member: 4937"] Agreement on that point isn't essential to my point. But this just opens up another whole can of worms, in that I don't think that the 'pride' in 'take pride in your work' is the same thing as the 'pride' I'm using. Here, we run up on limits in the english language where words for emotions are overloaded. I'd move to Greek, but I don't know the language well enough. No, I wouldn't say that it is. But, if you 'hate' hatred, its a very different sort of thing than hating Bob. Again, running up on problems with the langauge. Wrath is not just anger, but as wrath is used in two senses in English, I'll have to drop that word as too ambigious. However, anger at being wronged is evil. Sorry. The sense that 'I've been wronged, therefore I have a right to be angry', has been responsible for more of the world's evil than any other single thing. So, what would you describe as actual evil? [/QUOTE]

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