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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5012217" data-attributes="member: 22779">I dunno.&nbsp; I think &quot;Arthur sees the bad people doing bad things and rights the wrongs and unites the people&quot; is a pretty reactive version of good.If the other lords had been depicted as generous, kind, wise rulers, would we still view Arthur as good?&nbsp; I don't think so.&nbsp; There is still the concept of just war.&nbsp; To use a very bad example, we see Xerxes as evil because Leonidas is good.&nbsp; Never mind the actual history of course, we don't want to talk about that.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />&nbsp; But, in the 300 story, Leonides protects his home from the warlord about to take away their freedom.If there was no invasion, then there would be no story.&nbsp; Or, to put it another way, it's pretty rare for the story to be told from the point of view of the robber baron, oppressing his people and being generally Baron McEvil and then seeing the White Night as the antagonist and evil.&nbsp; Heros are good (by and large and, yes, I know that's painting with a HUGELY broad brush).Oh, certainly.&nbsp; Post-modern all the way.&nbsp; No disagreement here.&nbsp; However, D&amp;D is also based on modern morality (well such morality as its based on at all).Put it another way, how many D&amp;D settings have a good god declaring crusade on a neighbouring kingdom, which is also good aligned?&nbsp; Now, how many D&amp;D settings have an evil god doing the same thing?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 5012217, member: 22779"] I dunno. I think "Arthur sees the bad people doing bad things and rights the wrongs and unites the people" is a pretty reactive version of good. If the other lords had been depicted as generous, kind, wise rulers, would we still view Arthur as good? I don't think so. There is still the concept of just war. To use a very bad example, we see Xerxes as evil because Leonidas is good. Never mind the actual history of course, we don't want to talk about that. :D But, in the 300 story, Leonides protects his home from the warlord about to take away their freedom. If there was no invasion, then there would be no story. Or, to put it another way, it's pretty rare for the story to be told from the point of view of the robber baron, oppressing his people and being generally Baron McEvil and then seeing the White Night as the antagonist and evil. Heros are good (by and large and, yes, I know that's painting with a HUGELY broad brush). Oh, certainly. Post-modern all the way. No disagreement here. However, D&D is also based on modern morality (well such morality as its based on at all). Put it another way, how many D&D settings have a good god declaring crusade on a neighbouring kingdom, which is also good aligned? Now, how many D&D settings have an evil god doing the same thing? [/QUOTE]

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