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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 5016371" data-attributes="member: 82504">Celebrim referred to it and several other things as a evidence that minor evils may be pervasive. I was refuting that. the entire thought.. repels.We aren't, (and I did) it was Celebrims definitions appeared way too far in to neutral ranges way too big of net was being cast in search of evidence of pervasive minor evil. If every act is tinged by it then the term looses meaning and usefulness.Humanity is the earth on which either can grow.I too am generally inclined to call instincts neutral and yet....  "preserve your young"... if it is just that and nothing more it may be neutral...  yet all my emotions say this is a fundamental on which good grows...  push it generalize it and first its not just our own personal young and then perhaps not just the young but all to whom you are related and finally realizing how fundamentally related and interconnected we all are...it is everyone."sense of self importance" pushed to an extreme seems the fundament on which grows evil?.. and yet without it we wither and die a child can be killed slowly by deprivation of this sort - it is a "need" not something to be denigrated.   Religions variously bolster humanity calling us sons and daughters of god, or travelers on the journey to become one with the universal divine ourselves even though in apparent contradiction simultaneously promoting egoless-ness or subservience (depending on western or eastern inclination). I think this is one about balance.I have enjoyed this branching of the thread... but I think early on .... somebody said the most cogent answer to the actual thread.reworded.. because I am lazy.Evil is awesome in games and fiction and movies so the heros will be shown even more awesome when they kick it's bloody buttocks. But for me it is anything but cool.</blockquote>

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