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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ichneumon" data-source="post: 6342923" data-attributes="member: 98772">The inclusion of some subclasses in the DMG is as likely to have been done for space reasons as any other. If you have a choice between deferring a few subclasses and expanding the PHB to 352 pages, the former is going to seem more attractive. Yes, they had a number of darkly themed subclasses, some of which are still in the PHB. Why didn't they all go?The necromancer is part of one of D&D's most iconic groupings (the eight schools of magic) and splitting it from the other wizard subclasses would've been jarring. Leaving the assassin out would've broken WotC's promise on including every class, in some way, from the first PHBs of past editions. Also, I doubt they wanted one of the core 4 to have only two subclasses.The death cleric's an interesting one, as it's never been relegated from the PHB in any other edition. I don't even remember any caveats on how worshipping death gods is really for NPCs and players should think very carefully, check with their DM, etc. Again, I think this has been done for space reasons. There were already seven domains, and the cleric domain set isn't as 'atomic' as the set of wizard schools. So it was more painless to separate death (and maybe darkness) out.Are there any other subclasses in the DMG? No idea, but I can think of a few that might be there, such as a demonic-themed barbarian or a winter-themed druid. In fact, something like the shaman could be there, even though it's not a 'dark' subclass. Yeah, the DMG does seem a little ill-fitting for class options, even though it's been used that way before (the assassin in 2e, and the witch in 3e). But is it really better for gaming groups to have to wait till something like The Book of Vile Darkness comes out before they can play their blackguard or Raven Queen cleric? I'd say no.</blockquote>

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