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Message: <blockquote data-quote="moritheil" data-source="post: 3070838" data-attributes="member: 30610">Even if that is true, it is then up to what they believe - and what the DM believes.  What I do or do not believe does not enter into it in the least.  Thus, it is absurd and nontopical for you to ask what I believe.There is, however, mention of taking time to think in the follow up post.It was effectively being used as a rope.  I concede the literal detail, but my point was not that a rope was being used, my point was that the character already had something in hand to grab onto.You appear to be arguing that she was not holding on firmly.  This would be in direct contravention of the statement that she was engaged in freeing herself from the quicksand.  You'll have to abandon one statement or the other to be logically consistent.It was not stated that the thought was not IC.  You assumed it was OOC; I assumed it was IC.  Are you angry with me for not starting out with the same initial assumption?I clearly indicated in my previous post that thinking about an action and making a decision before execution vs. doing something suddenly in an altered mental state of blind panic can change whether an action is evil or neutral.  If you don't understand that, then I don't think I can help you no matter how much explaining I do.Overall, here's where you and I seem to disagree, KD: in the strict morality system DnD uses, an evil act is always evil, no matter the circumstances.  ("I only opened the portal to the Abyss because otherwise the demons would have slain my wife!"  "That's still evil.")  This really does not sit well with most people, who view it (rightly or wrongly) as absurd.  That's fine, and you can play your game however you want.I'm just answering the question, "Was the act evil [according to this artificial system of morality that has no relationship to RL]?"My answer was and is: Yes, it was, but who cares?  The character is neutral and can perform evil or good acts freely in order to survive.  It makes no practical difference if the action was evil or neutral.</blockquote>

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