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<blockquote data-quote="Seeten" data-source="post: 2027881" data-attributes="member: 27186"><p>I have seen in many threads, and anecdotally in my own town, many DM's/GM's who are completely against evil PC's and groups. In my own groups, we have 3 DM's and 2 of them will not allow an evil PC at all. I have also heard about all sorts of evil parties on these boards who seem to be all about raping the fields and pillaging the women.</p><p></p><p>I spoke to one of our DM's about it, and he said he'd seen an evil group when he was 15, and he still wasnt over the experience of what they did, and he thought it was sick. Well, after he relayed what his group had done, I agreed, it was sick, but I dont really see how representative it is of properly played evil characters.</p><p></p><p>I am going to go with an example of a character I played ages ago, a lawful evil fighter, and I am not trying for an "I rp better than yall" feel here, but more of a "I consider this both evil, fun to rp, and not disruptive to a group" feel. The character was female, a victim of rape, and carrying a lot of anger. She took the anger into martial training, and became skilled with the sword. She hated. She hated the tyrant who ruled the land. She hated the tyrants soldiers. She hated most men(exceptions made for friends, particularly ones who had helped women). She hated women who exploited women. She wanted revenge, basically on everyone. She didnt cause disruptions in the group, aside from some snide comments from time to time. She was an excellent tactician, and made battle plans for the group. She was an excellent motivator, and motivated lords, politicians, mayors, and others, to take actions which benefitted the people, generally. She would always stop to help a woman in need. She believed she was right, and she believed she was good, and just. She was always consistent, and never took an action she felt was wrong. That said, she murdered. She ruthlessly killed. Her enemies. The enemies of her people. She was merciless. If you attacked a town with women and children in it, she'd chase you down to the end of the earth to run you through. She had serious anger management issues. In the end she killed the tyrant, 2 years after the campaign started, and took over the land. She ruled it in a mailed iron fist. She was lawful evil, from beginning to end. She sounds like a modern libertarian, and she was, she was a college student from earth, magically transported to this fantasy world.</p><p></p><p>There was a Paladin in the party, and he understood and sympathized with many of her views, but she never went out of her way to be mean to him. He was old fashioned, but well intentioned. She thought he was naive, but not mean spirited, and always treated him well. I dont understand why this sort of thing wouldnt work in a campaign run by others. It was a great source of rp opportunities beyond, I kill X! I kill Y! If all you do is kill, whats the difference if its beholders or level 19 clerics of Pelor?</p><p></p><p>Poorly run characters of evil running about to kill and rape is ugly, but that smacks of immaturity, not evils fault. Discuss?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Seeten, post: 2027881, member: 27186"] I have seen in many threads, and anecdotally in my own town, many DM's/GM's who are completely against evil PC's and groups. In my own groups, we have 3 DM's and 2 of them will not allow an evil PC at all. I have also heard about all sorts of evil parties on these boards who seem to be all about raping the fields and pillaging the women. I spoke to one of our DM's about it, and he said he'd seen an evil group when he was 15, and he still wasnt over the experience of what they did, and he thought it was sick. Well, after he relayed what his group had done, I agreed, it was sick, but I dont really see how representative it is of properly played evil characters. I am going to go with an example of a character I played ages ago, a lawful evil fighter, and I am not trying for an "I rp better than yall" feel here, but more of a "I consider this both evil, fun to rp, and not disruptive to a group" feel. The character was female, a victim of rape, and carrying a lot of anger. She took the anger into martial training, and became skilled with the sword. She hated. She hated the tyrant who ruled the land. She hated the tyrants soldiers. She hated most men(exceptions made for friends, particularly ones who had helped women). She hated women who exploited women. She wanted revenge, basically on everyone. She didnt cause disruptions in the group, aside from some snide comments from time to time. She was an excellent tactician, and made battle plans for the group. She was an excellent motivator, and motivated lords, politicians, mayors, and others, to take actions which benefitted the people, generally. She would always stop to help a woman in need. She believed she was right, and she believed she was good, and just. She was always consistent, and never took an action she felt was wrong. That said, she murdered. She ruthlessly killed. Her enemies. The enemies of her people. She was merciless. If you attacked a town with women and children in it, she'd chase you down to the end of the earth to run you through. She had serious anger management issues. In the end she killed the tyrant, 2 years after the campaign started, and took over the land. She ruled it in a mailed iron fist. She was lawful evil, from beginning to end. She sounds like a modern libertarian, and she was, she was a college student from earth, magically transported to this fantasy world. There was a Paladin in the party, and he understood and sympathized with many of her views, but she never went out of her way to be mean to him. He was old fashioned, but well intentioned. She thought he was naive, but not mean spirited, and always treated him well. I dont understand why this sort of thing wouldnt work in a campaign run by others. It was a great source of rp opportunities beyond, I kill X! I kill Y! If all you do is kill, whats the difference if its beholders or level 19 clerics of Pelor? Poorly run characters of evil running about to kill and rape is ugly, but that smacks of immaturity, not evils fault. Discuss? [/QUOTE]
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