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<blockquote data-quote="Rothe" data-source="post: 3269181" data-attributes="member: 39813">I've never had players want it so no problem in my own games.I've turned down games where the &quot;goodest&quot; alignment was neutral.&nbsp; In my younger days too much expereince with I'm CN /CE so I can be a jerk to you out of character types. Now in my advanced age, the implications are too disturbing to me.&nbsp; To me, evil means having no compunction about hurting innocents (e.g., children) for your own gain.&nbsp; As a father, the very thought just sickens me.&nbsp; A DM can make sure such situations never come up in game but that doesn't take away that this is part the credo of evil.&nbsp; I consider the honorable mafioso fiction to be more LN, when they start beating up the mom and pop shop owners because they won't pay protection money that's evil.&nbsp; I can't help but imagining a child asking, &quot;Grandma why are you crying and your arm broken?&quot;Finally (as you can see I don't take the word evil lightly), I view the SS of Nazi Germany as the perfect example of LE, well organized and they considered themselves honorable or so I've read.&nbsp; Perfectly &quot;reasonable&quot; if you agreed with them.&nbsp; So LE always conjures up the image of the SS.&nbsp; And that cojures up the image of one of my first girlfriend's &quot;uncles&quot; who had the little tatoo from the camps.&nbsp; He was rounded up as a small boy and was the last one from his family alive.&nbsp; I can't shut out of my mind what that would be like for my son, so I can't just pretend it's OK to pretend to be LE.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Rothe, post: 3269181, member: 39813"] I've never had players want it so no problem in my own games. I've turned down games where the "goodest" alignment was neutral. In my younger days too much expereince with I'm CN /CE so I can be a jerk to you out of character types. Now in my advanced age, the implications are too disturbing to me. To me, evil means having no compunction about hurting innocents (e.g., children) for your own gain. As a father, the very thought just sickens me. A DM can make sure such situations never come up in game but that doesn't take away that this is part the credo of evil. I consider the honorable mafioso fiction to be more LN, when they start beating up the mom and pop shop owners because they won't pay protection money that's evil. I can't help but imagining a child asking, "Grandma why are you crying and your arm broken?" Finally (as you can see I don't take the word evil lightly), I view the SS of Nazi Germany as the perfect example of LE, well organized and they considered themselves honorable or so I've read. Perfectly "reasonable" if you agreed with them. So LE always conjures up the image of the SS. And that cojures up the image of one of my first girlfriend's "uncles" who had the little tatoo from the camps. He was rounded up as a small boy and was the last one from his family alive. I can't shut out of my mind what that would be like for my son, so I can't just pretend it's OK to pretend to be LE. [/QUOTE]

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